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08BAKU937
2008-10-06 05:11:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Baku
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AZERBAIJANI CIVIL SOCIETY ACTIVISTS HOST

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C O N F I D E N T I A L BAKU 000937 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/06/2018
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SUBJECT: AZERBAIJANI CIVIL SOCIETY ACTIVISTS HOST
CONFERENCE ON RUSSIA-GEORGIA CONFLICT

Classified By: Pol-Econ Chief Rob Garverick for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)
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C O N F I D E N T I A L BAKU 000937

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FOR EUR/CARC; DRL FOR WENDY SILVERMAN

E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/06/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV RS GG AJ
SUBJECT: AZERBAIJANI CIVIL SOCIETY ACTIVISTS HOST
CONFERENCE ON RUSSIA-GEORGIA CONFLICT

Classified By: Pol-Econ Chief Rob Garverick for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)
.


1. (C) Summary: The Azerbaijan National Committee for
European Integration (ANCEI) hosted a conference entitled
"The Russia - Georgia Conflict and Its Security, Economic,
and Humanitarian Implications" in Baku on September 29.
During the first panel on international security in the
aftermath of the conflict, commentators argued that the
political status quo in the South Caucasus has been
shattered. Azerbaijani political analyst Leila Alieva argued
that at least in the short term, the conflict will force the
three South Caucasus states to be more cautious in adopting a
pro-Western foreign policy and will cool any impulse for
reform. The second panel suggested that Russia,s response
was premeditated and excessive. Georgia, Azerbaijan and
Russia were said to have lost economically due to the
conflict, while the latter also lost politically on the
international stage. During the third panel on humanitarian
and civil society concerns, commentators reported that there
is a lack of data on casualties and infrastructure damage so
it is still difficult to grasp the toll of the conflict.
Despite this confusion, the vast majority of Azerbaijan,s
civil society organizations support Georgia,s claims to
territorial integrity. End Summary.

Background
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2. (SBU) The Azerbaijan National Committee for European
Integration (ANCEI) hosted a conference entitled "The Russia
- Georgia Conflict and Its Security, Economic, and
Humanitarian Implications" in Baku on September 29. (NOTE:
ANCEI is a loose-knit organization of approximately 50
Azerbaijani intellectuals who analyze Azerbaijan's relations
with the EU. ANCEI favors Azerbaijan's pro-Western foreign
policy orientation.) Approximately 70 people attended,
including political commentators, NGO representatives, and
journalists from Azerbaijan, Russia, and Georgia. The
German, Georgian, and Itlian Ambassadors attended, but
diplomatic represetation was minimal. The event was funded
by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation and the Open Society
Institute.

Opening Address
--------------


3. (SBU) German Ambassador Stanchina delivered the opening
address. Stanchina said the conflict has shaken the status
quo within the South Caucasus; the war also underscores the
need for regional cooperation and integration. Stanchina
threw out several unanswered questions, wondering whether
Russia is the only regional state that can provide security
in the region and what the West can do to enhance security.
Stanchina observed that the conflict demonstrated that
"irresponsible Russian behavior" in the region would not lead
to Western military involvement, as the West is not willing
to risk a war with Russia. Commenting on Azerbaijan's
security challenges, Stanchina said the best way for
Azerbaijan to increase security cooperation with Western
states is to become a full democracy.

Panel One: International Relations and Security
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4. (SBU) Azerbaijani political analyst Leila Alieva argued
that the status quo within the South Caucasus has been
shattered. The three regional states must now face the
question of whether to be more cautious or proactive in
seeking Euro-Atlantic integration. Alieva said the region's
movement toward the EU and NATO will slow, alongside a
cooling of political and economic reforms. The conflict has
showed that Russia is the decisive actor within the South
Caucasus, and it faces little restraints in using any tools
-- diplomatic, economic, military, etc. -- to pursue its
goals. Alieva suggested Russia's invasion could open a
Pandora's Box of challenges for Moscow in dealing with some
of its own minorities. Echoing a common theme, Alexandr
Russetski of the Helsinki Commission said the status quo of
the South Caucasus' "frozen conflicts" should no longer be
acceptable to the international community.


5. (SBU) Russian analyst Maksim Sevchenko's pro-Russian and
anti-U.S. comments sharply contrasted with the broader tone

of the conference. Sevchenko argued that Georgia is to blame
for the war because it was the aggressor, and that Russia had
been a "victim" to the intervention of outside powers.
Sevchenko urged the three South Caucasus states to learn from
the probable tripartite division of Iraq as a lesson that
Western interventions launched under the guise of
"democracy-building" promote instability. Sevchenko also
stated that Russia's core security interests would be
threatened by the South Caucasus states joining a foreign
military block (i.e. NATO) or allowing a foreign military
base to be established in the neighborhood. Finally,
Sevchenko emphasized at several points that Azerbaijan is a
reliable partner for Russia and there are no substantive
bilateral problems.


6. (SBU) Azerbaijani political analyst Rasim Musabayov said
the GOAJ's low profile assistance to Georgia during the
conflict was "adequate." The Azerbaijani position is based
on the need to support Georgia, while avoiding spoiling
relations with Russia. Caucasus International Crisis Group
Director Lawrence Sheets argued that Russia has managed to
"shift the goalposts" vis-a-vis Georgia by limiting European
monitors access to only the Russian "buffer zones," and
disallowing the monitors to access South Ossetia or Abkhazia.
Azerbaijani political commentator Zardusht Alizadeh ruled
out the prospects for Russia duplicating a "Georgia scenario"
in Azerbaijan, suggesting that Azerbaijani-Russian relations
are on a good footing.

Panel Two: International Relations and Security (continued)
-------------- --------------


7. (SBU) The second panel largely reiterated key points of
the first panel. Georgia analyst David Smith argued that
Russia,s key objectives were to unseat Georgian President
Saakashvili, derail Georgia,s bid to join NATO, and to
destroy the country,s military and economy. Vakhtang
Kolbaya identified the conflict as Russia,s first step to
reassert its power by dividing and controlling Georgia.
Maksim Sevchenko countered that anyone born in the former
USSR can apply for Russian citizenship and that its citizens
will be defended by force, if necessary. Georgian Ambassador
Nikoloz Natbiladze called for an international investigation
into the outbreak of the conflict. Natbiladze stressed that
Russia,s response was not that of a peacekeeper, but of an
invading force intent on punishing Georgia. While urging
that dialogue was needed with Russia, he said it is untenable
as long as Russia used double standards when defining the
status of breakaway regions.

Panel Three: Humanitarian Problems and Civil Society
-------------- --------------


8. (SBU) Arzu Abdullayeva of Azerbaijan,s Helsinki Citizens
Assembly represented the views of many panelists. She
claimed the majority of civil society organizations in
Azerbaijan supported Georgia in the conflict, as the
disruption of its territorial integrity was illegal. As
noted by Russian humanitarian aid worker Varvara Pakhomenko,
inadequate access to the buffer zones and the rampant spread
of fabricated stories have exacerbated the problem of gaining
accurate information. Several of the panelists emphasized
the importance of establishing an information center to get
accurate and timely reports out to all interested parties.
Mamuka Kuparadze lamented that the Georgian government
offered no indication of its intentions to launch the initial
strikes against separatists, so civil society organizations
in the country were unable to warn civilians of the impending
danger. As a result of the conflict, over 68,000 refugees
have been unable to return to their homes in the buffer
zones.


9. (U) Conference Participants Included:

Panel One:
Leila Alieva, Azerbaijani political analyst
Alexandr Russetski, Chairman of the Georgian Helsinki
Commission; Chairman of the South Caucasus Regional Security
Institute
Maksim Sevchenko, Commissioner for the Russian Federation
Public Chamber Commission on Ethnic Relations and Freedom of
Conscience; Member of the Center for Strategic Studies of
Religion and Politics of the Modern World
Rasim Musabayov, Azerbaijani political analyst

Lawrence Sheets, Caucasus Director for the International
Crisis Group
Zardusht Alizadeh, Azerbaijani political analyst
Malkhaz Gulashvili, President of the "Georgian Times"

Panel Two:
David Smith, Director of the Georgian Security Analysis
Center, Potomac Institute for Policy Studies;
Togrul Juvarli, Professor and political scientist at Turan
Information Agency;
Vakhtang Kolbaya, Director of the Research Center for
Development of Georgian-Turkish Relations;
Ingilab Ahmedov, Director of the Monitoring Centre;
Vahktang Dzhanashiya, Chief Editor and Political Scientist of
Russian television channel ORT-1

Panel Three:
Irada Bagirova, Department Head of the Caucasus History
Department at the Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences;
Varvara Pakhomenko, Human rights defender and representative
for a Russian human rights organization;
Mamuka Kuparadze, Director of Studio Re, a Georgian
non-governmental organization;
Bruce Grant, Professor at the University of New York;
Avaz Hasanov, President of the Society for Human Research;
Guram Odisharia, Writer for Caucasian Dialogue, a Georgian
non-governmental organization


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