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08BAGHDAD1054
2008-04-06 13:01:00
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Embassy Baghdad
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MEETING WITH KRG SECURITY DIRECTOR SINJARI AND

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SUBJECT: MEETING WITH KRG SECURITY DIRECTOR SINJARI AND
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Classified By: Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker. Reasons: 1.4 (b) & (d).

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Classified By: Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker. Reasons: 1.4 (b) & (d).


1. (S) SUMMARY: MNF-I DCS for Strategic Effects MG Bergner
and D/PolMil Couns met with KRG security director Karim
Sinjari March 19 to discuss closing Makhmour refugee camp.
Sinjari supported closure of the camp, noting that absent any
employment prospects, the younger residents would likely
gravitate towards the PKK. He pointed out the difficulty of
KRG forward movement on the political track until the GOT
made similar steps. While pleased that PM Erdogan was
reaching out to Turkish Kurds through visits to the southeast
and an economic development package, no progress would occur
without TGS buy-in. Only the Pentagon could put the needed
pressure on the Turkish military to change the situation.
Sinjari cited the hand of the TGS behind the motion filed by
the Turkish Court of Appeals to close the ruling party, AKP.


2. (C) D/Polmil Couns Sasahara and MNF-I Strategic Effects
DCS MG Bergner met with KRG Security Director Karim Sinjari
March 19 to ascertain his views on closing Makhmour refugee
Camp. Sinjari said that he very much wanted to see the camp
closed, as it poses a security risk to the region. According
to Sinjari, the camp is home to some 3,400 children between
the ages of 6-12. Absent any employment outside of the camp
or other positive prospects, the children will gravitate
towards the PKK. While he believes that the camp is civilian
in nature, Sinjari said the GOT views the camp as a PKK nest
and breeding ground.


3. (C) MG Bergner told Sinjari that the GOI sent a diplomatic
note to the GOT in early February inviting them to meet with
GOI officials to discuss closure of Makhmour refugee camp.
The GOI has not yet received a response from the GOT.
Sinjari said that while it would be appropriate for the MFA
to take the lead in the initial opening discussion, he felt
that the operational details should be handled by the
Ministry of Immigration.

Progress on the Political Track

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4. (S) Sinjari said that the KRG will not be able to take the
difficult steps forward without similar political steps from
the GOT. PM Erdogan's trips to the southeast and an economic
development package were the rights steps. Some kind of
amnesty also was an important signal and the type of measure
that would undercut the PKK position and also lead them to
lay down their weapons. Sinjari noted the discussions TNIO
Taner has had with PKK leaders in Europe, commenting on how
"different" Taner's stance was on dealing with the PKK and
Kurds.


5. (C) While he applauded Erdogan and his AKP party's
interest in addressing the Kurdish problem, Sinjari said that
nothing would change unless the TGS concurred, and the
diplomatic approach would not work. The only way to change
that situation, he said, was for "the Pentagon" to put
pressure on the TGS. Commenting on Turkish domestic
politics, Sinjari said that Erdogan was the first real
religious leader in the history of Turkey, noting the PM's
wife wears a headscarf. Erdogan had won 54% of the Kurdish
vote in the elections. That was "bad for the PKK and the
TGS." Sinjari claimed the TGS was trying to shut down the
AKP, as demonstrated by the legal motion filed by the Turkish
Court of Appeals to close down the AKP.

Meeting with UNHCR Irbil Representative
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6. (C) In a separate meeting, UNHCR Irbil Rep Charles Lynch
clarified the status of Makhmour refugee camp, explaining
that the camp was under the control of the GOI and the UNHCR
was present in the camp and provided services to the
residents. While the residents have not undergone individual
screening, UNHCR considered them prima facie refugees and
under the UNHCR mandate, they were deemed "people of
concern." Lynch mentioned that there were in fact five other
refugee camps in which some 4,000 other Kurdish refugees who
also fled southeast Turkey between 1994-1998 were living.


7. (C) Lynch said that the UNHCR would resume its role in
Makhmour refugee camp if the GOT were to re-engage on the
issue. Under that scenario, the UNHCR would then conduct
what it calls an intention survey, in which residents would
be asked if they wanted to return to Turkey and what
expectation they would have upon return, in terms of housing,
training, and assistance in re-integration into society. In
response to D/PolMil Couns's comment that Makhmour refugee
camp members had talked about return to Turkey under
international protection, Lynch explained that scenario would
entail UNHCR monitoring of the returnees, an operation that
would require a significant increase in manpower, as UNHCR

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would have to be physically present for monitoring purposes.


8. (C) MG Bergner said that MNF-I would continue to canvass
the Makhmour refugee camp stakeholders on their perspectives
and the way forward in an effort to approach the issue
wisely. MG Bergner conveyed to Lynch Sinjari's request for
more UNHCR services in the camp. Lynch said that they
already provided considerable services to the residents, but
would take the message on board.
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