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08ATHENS411
2008-03-18 13:40:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Athens
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GREECE/CFE: NON-PAPER ON FLANK AND NATIONAL

Tags:  PREL MARR MASS KCFE NATO GR 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/17/2018
TAGS: PREL MARR MASS KCFE NATO GR
SUBJECT: GREECE/CFE: NON-PAPER ON FLANK AND NATIONAL
CEILINGS

REF: 07 STATE 159773

Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission Tom Countryman for 1.4 (b) and (
d)

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DEPT ALSO FOR VCI AND EUR/RPM

E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/17/2018
TAGS: PREL MARR MASS KCFE NATO GR
SUBJECT: GREECE/CFE: NON-PAPER ON FLANK AND NATIONAL
CEILINGS

REF: 07 STATE 159773

Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission Tom Countryman for 1.4 (b) and (
d)


1. (C) On the margins of March 17 meetings on OSCE matters
with visiting USOSCE Ambassador Finley and A/DAS Robbins,
Greek MFA Director General for International Organizations
and International Security and Cooperation Ambassador
Nicolaos Kalantzianos said he had an important CFE issue to
address. After excusing himself from the room for several
minutes, he returned and handed over a non-paper (e-mailed to
EUR/RPM and VCI DAS Look ) full text in para 3 below). The
Greek non-paper referred to a November update provided by
Embassy Athens on U.S./Russia CFE consultations, which noted
U.S. willingness to review the operation of the CFE Treaty
once the Adapted Treaty has entered into force, including the
possibility of considering reductions in equipment ceilings
and subceilings (reftel). The Greek non-paper terms "NATO
collective ceilings" a "relic of the past," suggests that
Greece should no longer be "perceived as" a "flank country,"
and states that it would be "implausible and inconceivable
for Greece to agree to lower her national ceilings."


2. (C) Comment: It is not surprising that the Greeks would
look askance at suggestions they consider reductions in their
CFE ceilings. Given their perception of the Turkish threat
and their defense doctrine (and spending) to respond to that
threat, the Greeks would be most unwilling to enter into such
discussions. However, as far as we are aware, no one has
made such a suggestion to the Greeks. Rather, the Greeks are
apparently responding to a November 2007 "update" (reftel) on
U.S./Russia discussions on CFE in the run-up to Russia's
"suspension" of its participation in the CFE regime, in which
the U.S. told Allies that the U.S. had informed the Russians
of U.S. readiness to "review operation of the CFE Treaty once
the Adapted Treaty has entered into force, including the idea
of considering possible reductions in equipment ceilings and
subceilings." We suspect that the Greeks decided to take
advantage of Finley and Robbins' presence to lay down a
marker that they will not entertain any suggestion to reduce
their CFE equipment ceilings should this issue ever actually
be on the agenda. End Comment.


3. (SBU) Greek non-paper on CFE

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Non-Paper on Greek CFE Positions

-- We appreciate the U.S. endeavors to ensure the viability
of the CFE regime. On our part, we have done our utmost to
support your efforts and contribute effectively to the unity
of the NATO Alliance and to the elaboration of unanimous
Allied positions, throughout the process.

-- Concerning the U.S. latest proposals on the Conventional
Forces in Europe Treaty relayed to Greece via the U.S.
Embassy in Athens on November 26, and in particular,
regarding the U.S. proposition concerning the possibility of
proceeding with national reductions in military equipment
ceilings, we would like to stress out the following points:

-- We fully concur with the U.S. that any notion of "NATO
collective ceilings" constitutes a relic of the past that
takes us back to the block-to-block approach of the CFE
Treaty and, therefore, should be avoided.

-- Russia's concern seems to be focused on the southern flank
area, where the situation has changed after the accession of
Bulgaria and Romania to NATO. However, this change does not
only relate to the aggregate NATO military equipment
ceilings, but also to the geo-strategic ituation. Greece,
for example, under the CFE Treaty is considered to be a
"flank" country but under the current geo-strategic terms
should not be perceived as one. We believe that it would
facilitate the collective efforts of the Alliance not to
calculate Greece and her ceilings in the equation of the
southern "flank."

-- At the same time we would like to underline the Greek
position: for security and defense reasons and for as long
as the current situation in the Aegean persists, it would be
implausible and inconceivable for Greece to agree to lower
her national ceilings.

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