KAZAKHSTAN: KAZMUNAIGAS FIRST VP IDENOV ON SWAPS WITH

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SUBJECT: KAZAKHSTAN: KAZMUNAIGAS FIRST VP IDENOV ON SWAPS WITH
IRAN AND TRANS-CASPIAN AGREEMENT WITH SOCAR

REF: (A) ASTANA 2082 (B) ASTANA 2266

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1. (U) Sensitive but unclassified. Not for public Internet.


2. (SBU) SUMMARY: On November 19, KazMunaiGas (KMG) First Vice
President Maksat Idenov briefed the Ambassador on KMG's
trans-Caspian oil transportation agreement with the State Oil
Company of the Azerbaijan Republic (SOCAR),indicated that
Kazakhstan has no plans to increase oil shipments to Iran in the
near future, and said he was ready to sign a heads of agreement with
ConocoPhillips to explore the oil-rich N Block offshore in the
Caspian Sea. END SUMMARY.

GOOD NEWS FROM BAKU


3. (SBU) Idenov warmly welcomed the Ambassador to his office and
noted that much has happened since Ambassador Mann's visit in
October (reftel A). In particular, Idenov pointed to the successful
Kashagan negotiations and the trans-Caspian agreement with SOCAR as
positive developments, both of which he expects to have a lasting
impact on Kazakhstan's development. Idenov confirmed that the
November 14 agreement with SOCAR calls for the establishment of a
50-50 joint venture to expand port and terminal facilities in Kuryk
and Baku (reftel B). He also said that the agreement allows either
side to invite third parties to join the project, provided they
commit to shipping a fixed amount of crude through the system.
Idenov mentioned Conoco-Phillips, Total, Inpex, and ENI/Agip as
potential partners, since they have upstream assets in Kazakhstan
and are also shareholders in the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) pipeline
consortium, but said that Shell and Exxon-Mobil may find themselves
excluded from the Kazakhstan Caspian Transportation System (KCTS)
since they chose not to invest in BTC. (COMMENT: It is odd that
Idenov did not mention Chevron, which owns 50% of Kazakhstan's
largest producing oil company, Tengizchevroil. Furthermore, Chevron
and Exxon-Mobil were reported to be in talks over the Eskene-Kuryk
pipeline, an essential element of the KCTS. END COMMENT.) Idenov
said that KMG can "quite easily" transport 400,000-450,000 barrels
per day (bpd) by tanker, but shipping greater volumes will require a
trans-Caspian pipeline.

TRANS-CASPIAN OIL PIPELINE


4. (SBU) When asked whether Kazakhstan felt it had the legal
authority to build a trans-Caspian pipeline on the basis of its
bilateral agreement with Azerbaijan and in the absence of a
comprehensive demarcation agreement among all five littoral Caspian
states, Idenov declined to comment directly. He said simply, "we
would not want to offend our neighbors to the north." However,
Idenov slyly noted that Russia is developing, together with KMG,
three offshore Caspian oil fields within Russia's territorial waters
(Khvalynskoye, Tsentralnaya, and Korchagin) and has plans to build
undersea pipelines to transport oil from these fields to onshore
pipelines and processing facilities. As soon as Russia does so,
Idenov said, "we can go to Russia and say, 'You are building your
undersea pipeline, now you cannot object if we build ours.'"

NO PLANS TO INCREASE SHIPMENTS TO IRAN


5. (SBU) According to Idenov, Kazakhstan currently swaps "a very
small amount" of crude with Iran -- about one million tons annually
(or 20,000 bpd). Idenov said Kazakhstan has no immediate plans to
increase that amount and noted that Iran would have to build a new
refinery in the north to process Kazakhstani crude, which is high in
mercaptan content. Idenov is skeptical about reports that Iran
plans to build a pipeline from the northern port of Neka to the
southern port of Jask, saying, "No one would build such a long,
expensive pipeline without a commitment of oil -- and who would
commit the oil?" When reminded that Total insisted during the
Kashagan negotiations on its right to ship its product anywhere,
including Iran, Idenov dismissed the suggestion with a wave of the

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hand, "That's just a French thing. They always make a lot of noise
and never do anything." In the long-term, Idenov did not rule out
the possibility that Kazakhstan might ship greater volumes of oil to
Iran, but he said their preference is to increase the capacity of
the BTC and Baku-Supsa pipelines, as well as a pipeline that would
ship oil east to China.

PRE-CASPIAN GAS PIPELINE


6. (SBU) According to Idenov, the development of the Prikaspiskii
gas pipeline (Caspian Littoral Pipeline) is still in its early
stages. (NOTE: The Prikaspiskii pipeline would carry natural gas
along the shore of the Caspian Sea from Turkmenistan through
Kazakhstan to Russia. Each country would build, operate, and own
the pipeline on its territory. Kazakhstan's segment of the pipeline
would have a capacity of up to 20 billion cubic meters and would
connect to the Central Asia-Center pipeline at Beineu. END NOTE).
Idenov said Gazprom is currently carrying out a feasibility study,
but noted that no one has answered the following critical questions:
Where will the gas come from? Who will invest in the project? Who
will implement and manage the project? Idenov said it will take
some time for Turkmenistan to develop its natural gas resources and
will require opening up to foreign investment and shedding the
closed, provincial mentality inculcated under former President
Niyazov.

FINANCIAL CRISIS WILL NOT IMPACT KMG INVESTMENTS


7. (SBU) Despite the global financial crisis and Kazakhstan's
withdrawal of $10 billion from the National (Oil) Fund to finance
various stabilization measures, KMG will have no difficulty meeting
its cash calls, dividend obligations, interest payments, and
investment plans, said Idenov. He noted that KMG has increased its
revenue from the Tengiz and Karachaganak fields and reminded the
Ambassador that he was able to raise easily more than $3 billion
earlier this year for KMG's exploration and production company.
Idenov said he plans to raise additional funds on the international
market at the end of 2009.

KMG READY TO SIGN N BLOCK DEAL


8. (SBU) Although he was confident that KMG would weather the
financial storm and move forward with its ambitious strategy, Idenov
seemed frustrated that many of his plans were subject to government
approval and personnel changes. For example, KMG's Board of
Directors yesterday approved a heads of agreement with
ConocoPhillips and Mubadala to develop the N Block offshore in the
Caspian Sea that would guarantee a 12% annual rate of return for the
government. Idenov said he was "ready now" to sign the deal, but
still needed to get the approval of "Mr. Government," which he said
was shorthand for the Council of Ministers, the Minister of Economy,
the Minister of the Environment, and the Prime Minister. Idenov
confided that he would present the terms of this "excellent deal" to
Prime Minister Masimov today and would warn him that if the
government insisted on harsher terms or announced other cash calls,
that could destroy the deal. He said he expected the government
"would probably agree" to the terms of the N Block deal by the end
of the year, but he said he would recommend extending the deadline
to January 2009.


9. (SBU) COMMENT. Idenov was very frank and open during his first
formal conversation with the Ambassador. He answered the
Ambassador's questions as directly and candidly as possible in
fluent English, frequently smiling and gesturing to underscore a
point. We have no specific reason to doubt his claims that
Kazakhstan has no firm plans to increase oil shipments to Iran,
although we also understand Kazakhstan's desire to keep this option
open. We thus need to encourage continued Kazakhstani-Azerbaijani
engagement to expedite implementation of the KMG-SOCAR agreement.
END COMMENT.

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