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08ASHGABAT778
2008-06-19 10:42:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Ashgabat
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TURKMENISTAN: HUNGARY'S NABUCCO AMBASSADOR MAKES

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ASHGABAT 000778 

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PLEASE PASS TO USTDA DAN STEIN
USEU FOR SPECIAL ENVOY GRAY
ENERGY FOR EKIMOFF/THOMPSON
COMMERCE FOR HUEPER

E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/19/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV EPET EU HU TX
SUBJECT: TURKMENISTAN: HUNGARY'S NABUCCO AMBASSADOR MAKES
FIRST VISIT TO ASHGABAT

REF: ASHGABAT 0771

Classified By: CDA RICHARD E. HOAGLAND: 1.4(B),(D)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ASHGABAT 000778

SIPDIS

STATE FOR SCA/CEN, EEB
PLEASE PASS TO USTDA DAN STEIN
USEU FOR SPECIAL ENVOY GRAY
ENERGY FOR EKIMOFF/THOMPSON
COMMERCE FOR HUEPER

E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/19/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV EPET EU HU TX
SUBJECT: TURKMENISTAN: HUNGARY'S NABUCCO AMBASSADOR MAKES
FIRST VISIT TO ASHGABAT

REF: ASHGABAT 0771

Classified By: CDA RICHARD E. HOAGLAND: 1.4(B),(D)


1. (C) SUMMARY: Hungary's new Ambassador-at-Large for the
Nabucco Pipeline Project, Mihaly Bayer, told the Charge June
18 that, though Nabucco has "full European Union (EU)
backing," less-than-united support from individual capitals
and a multiplicity of interests at play in Brussels are
slowing progress on the pipeline. Suggesting that EU members
will fall in line if the EU is able to get its own house in
order, Bayer is promoting an inter-governmental conference
that would then lead to an inter-agreement as the next steps.
In the meantime, recognizing the importance of creating a
bridge to possible supplier countries, Bayer met with
hydrocarbon officials in Turkmenistan, who he found friendly,
open -- and lacking capacity. To help Hungary improve its
contacts with Ashgabat, he has taken the additional step of
proposing a July 8-9 visit by Hungary's Prime Minister
Gyursany, but does not yet have a green light from the
Turkmen for the visit. While Bayer also suggested that South
Stream poses no immediate threat to Nabucco, he did say that
his country would have to support Sout Stream, as well as
Nabucco, if the Russian-proposed pipeline is indeed more than
bluster. END SUMMARY.


2. (C) During a June 18 meeting, Bayer told the Charge that
his position had been created in order to promote
coordination of the effort to move forward with the Nabucco
pipeline. Since beginning in his new position on April 1,
Bayer has visited all Nabucco countries except Bulgaria, and
has been to Brussels multiple times. Despite the importance
of his title, however, Bayer resisted any suggestion by the
Charge that he was adding "leadership" to the Nabucco effort,
insisting that he could function most effectively by working
below the radar.

THE NEXT STEP: INTER-GOVERNMENTAL CONFERENCE AND AGREEMENT


3. (C) Bayer told the Charge Nabucco has full European

Commission (EC) support, but that not all European capitals
are behind the project as strongly as the EC itself. And
even within the EC, the multiplicity of departments and
interests at play in Brussels -- the lumbering and
compartmentalized bureaucracy -- tends to create a
less-than-unified voice. Bayer believes that the next step
to moving the Nabucco project forward is to convene an
inter-governmental conference and reach an inter-governmental
agreement -- and to do so as soon as possible. Once the
inter-governmental agreement is signed and the EC has its
house in order, EU members, who are bound to obey EC
directives, will fall in line. This in turn will allow
companies to begin moving forward. Only then, Bayer
suggested, will the focus be on countries supplying the gas.

10 BCM "PROMISE" ONLY A GREEN LIGHT FOR HARD WORK


4. (C) Bayer visited Turkmenistan to begin discussions on
Turkmenistan's becoming a source country for the Nabucco
pipeline. He noted that President Berdimuhamedov's April 9
promise to European Commissioner for External Relations and
European Neighborhood Policy Benita Ferraro-Waldner to
provide 10 billion cubic meters of gas (reftel) had been
somewhat less than the full-fledged commitment that had been
trumpeted. Instead, it had been a green light to do some
hard work; really, the president had only said that, in
theory, he would make some gas available to Europe. To begin
the work, he had met earlier on June 18 with Deputy Prime
Minister for Oil and Gas Tachberdi Tagiyev and Minister of

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Oil and Gas Baymurad Hojamuhammedov. and was planning to meet
that afternoon with Deputy Prime Minister/Foreign Minister
Rashid Meredov and, possibly, with Executive Director of the
State Agency for Management and Use of Hydrocarbon Resources
Bayrammurad Muradov.

HUNGARIAN PRIME MINISTER PROPOSES JULY 8-9 VISIT


5. (C) In general, Bayer had found his interlocutors open,
increasingly confident, prepared to consider the EU as a
potential long-term partner -- and counting on much higher
prices and a major new influx of money for its natural gas.
But, he also said, he had also found his interlocutors
surprisingly "weak," lacking both depth in personnel and
bureaucratic capacity. When the Charge urged him to visit
frequently, Bayer said that Hungary's attention on
Turkmenistan is increasing, and his country is trying to
improve its contacts. To that end, Bayer had proposed a
visit by Hungary's Prime Minister Gyurcsany on July 8-9.

SOUTH STREAM POSES NO IMMEDIATE THREAT TO NABUCCO


6. (C) Remarking that none of the new pipelines currently
under discussion, such as Nabucco or South Stream, are
certain to move forward, Bayer told the Charge he does not
believe that South Stream poses an immediate life-and-death
threat to Nabucco. Bayer pointed out that Russia does not
always follow through on measures that it says it will
implement, and that Russia engages in a degree of
manipulative propaganda. Even if Nabucco is not moving
forward quickly, planning for the project is relatively
advanced: a Nabucco consortium has been establshed, the
exemption process has begun, an engineering company --
Penspen -- has been chosen, and the International Financial
Corporation has agreed to move forward with a financial
study. By comparison, he said, no funding sources for South
Stream has been revealed, there is no South Stream company
(other than Gazprom),not all countries supposedly involved
in the pipeline have signed agreements, no feasibility study
has been carried out, and there is not yet even a fixed
route.


7. (C) Noting that European governments have realized since
the Russia/Ukraine dispute over gas in early 2006 that they
cannot rely on only one pipeline, Bayer said that his country
will have to support South Stream if it moves forward because
it would enhance Hungary's energy security. However, he
added, he personally believes that there is much bluffing and
propaganda involved in Russia's proposal for South Stream.


8. (C) COMMENT: Although new to Central Asia, Bayer -- who
last served as Hungary's ambassador to Moldova -- struck us
as a pragmatic, experienced diplomat with a decent initial
understanding of the issues that will determine whether
Nabucco becomes a reality. That Hungary has appointed
created such a diplomatic position is positive, and that
Bayer is already visiting Turkmenistan is even better. Even
if the EU and Bayer are able to untangle the mid- and
downstream details, bringing Turkmenistan on board as a
supplier may prove a greater challenge yet, given the steps
that must still be accomplished, including with Azerbaijan,
to make transiting Turkmen gas across the Caspian a reality.
END COMMENT.
HOAGLAND