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08ANKARA939
2008-05-15 11:46:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Ankara
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TURKEY: CFE CONSULTATIONS WITH RUSSIAN DFM KISLYAK

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SUBJECT: TURKEY: CFE CONSULTATIONS WITH RUSSIAN DFM KISLYAK

Classified By: Pol-Mil Counselor Carl Siebentritt, Reasons 1.4 (B) and
(D)


1. (C) Summary: MFA Arms Control Deputy Director General
Ahmet Muhtar Gun told us May 14 that Russian Deputy Foreign
Minister Kislyak probed for weaknesses in the Alliance's
position on CFE, griped about Alliance "failures" to respond
to Russia's concerns, and pressed Turkey to give up the Flank
Regime and lift its exclusion zone during May 12 CFE
consultations with Turkey. Kislyak warned that Allies will
"either have to live with CFE without the Flank Regime, or
live with no CFE at all." Gun said Turkey held firm,
reiterated the statement made by President Gul at the
Bucharest Summit concerning CFE, reaffirmed the March 28 NATO
declaration, and pressed Russia to fulfill the Istanbul
Commitments and show more flexibility. Looking ahead, Gun
said Turkey supports the U.S. approach: listen to the
Russians, document non-compliance, and maintain "active
patience" until the HLTF retreat this Fall during which the
Alliance will review the state of play. Gun concluded by
noting that Turkey does not want the CFE dispute to undermine
growing trade and commercial ties Russia. End Summary.


2. (C) Gun provided us a readout of Russian Deputy FM
Kislyak's May 12 consultations with Turkey that focused on
CFE issues, while touching on Black Sea relations and Iran's
nuclear program (reported septel). Kislyak's primary GOT
interlocutor was MFA Deputy Under Secretary for Bilateral
Affairs Ahmet Cevikoz.

Rehashing Familiar Gripes
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3. (C) According to Gun, Kislyak raised a series of familiar
complaints against the CFE and NATO. Turkey responded firmly
to each of the issues, which included:

The Flank Regime:

Kislyak argued that it should be eliminated. Sub-territorial
ceilings are unfair and prevent Russia from addressing
terrorist threats in the region. He alleged that none of the
other Allies care about the Flank Regime and Turkey should
not either: Turkey does not border Russia, and Russia does

not pose a threat to Turkey. Kislyak warned that ultimately,
Allies will have to "live with CFE without the Flank Regime,
or live with no CFE at all." Cevikoz told Kislyak that the
Flank Regime is part of the CFE Treaty and the Adapted CFE
Treaty. Support for the Flank Regime is not a Turkish
position, but an Alliance one. Eliminating it does not only
impact Turkey and Russia, but will have implications for
stability in the Caucasus and the Eastern Aegean. Cevikoz
also challenged Kislyak's assertion that the Flank Regime
must be eliminated in order for Russia to address its
terrorist threat in the North Caucasus, stating that Russia
should have sufficient flexibility to address any terrorist
threat while still remaining under flank limits. Cevikoz
reminded Kislyak that Allies agreed to allow revised limits
to apply temporarily during the Chechnya conflict.

Parallel Action Unfair:

The parallel action proposal is unfair, Kislyak argued. It
places many demands on Russia while only providing Alliance
promises. Cevikoz replied that the March 28 NATO Statement
on CFE spelled out some concrete steps Allies would take in
parallel with Russian action. Cevikoz also noted the history
of Alliance flexibility in the face of Russian demands (in
1996 and in 1999); Russia should begin to show some
flexibility too.

"Substantial Combat Forces":

Kislyak complained that NATO has still not provided a
definition of "substantial combat forces" as it is used in
the NATO-Russia Founding Act. Cevikoz again pointed to the
March 28 NATO Statement, noting the statement explicitly
offers to develop jointly with Russia a definition for the
term.

Istanbul Commitments:

Kislyak asserted that the Alliance continues to make demands
on Russia regarding Istanbul Commitments even though Russia
has already met them. He specifically protested what he
claimed to be a Georgian policy to link the conclusion of the
agreement on the Gudauta base with Russian fulfillment of the
Istanbul commitments related to Moldova. Cevikoz urged
Russia to fulfill all the Istanbul Commitments, which would
in turn create the conditions for the ratification of the

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adapted CFE treaty. Gun reiterated to us Turkey's position
that it would support any solution, within or outside of CFE,
that Georgia and Moldova are willing to accept.

Exclusion Zone
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4. (C) During the consultations, Kislyak also asked Turkey to
consider lifting the "exclusion zone," which according to
Gun, is the first time Russia has raised the issue with
Turkey. Cevikoz responded forcefully, stating that Turkey's
need for an exclusion zone is well known: it shares borders
with countries that are not part of the CFE treaty and has
security challenges in its southeast region.

Next Steps
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5. (C) Turkey and Russia agreed to continue consultations in
the future, with the Turkish side noting that the March 28
NATO statement provides the best basis for ongoing
discussions.


6. (C) Looking ahead, Gun said Turkey supported the US
approach and will continue to: hear the Russians out;
document Russia's noncompliance; raise CFE concerns in the
JCG in Vienna; and maintain "active patience." Gun asked the
US to continue to consult with Turkey closely. He stressed
that it is in all of the parties' interest to find a
solution.


7. (C) Gun concluded his readout to us by stating that Turkey
does not desire to let CFE undermine its important bilateral
relationship with Russia. Gun noted that bilateral trade
volume has reached over 28 billion dollars, and bilateral
investment levels have exceeded 6.5 billion dollars.

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