Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
07VILNIUS449
2007-06-15 13:51:00
SECRET
Embassy Vilnius
Cable title:
(C) LITHUANIA MAY PLACE CAVEAT ON FORCES DEPLOYING
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S E C R E T VILNIUS 000449
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/12/2017
TAGS: MOPS MARR MCAP AF LH
SUBJECT: (C) LITHUANIA MAY PLACE CAVEAT ON FORCES DEPLOYING
TO AFGHANISTAN
REF: VILNIUS 393
Classified By: POL/ECON CHIEF REBECCA DUNHAM FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D
)
S E C R E T VILNIUS 000449
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/12/2017
TAGS: MOPS MARR MCAP AF LH
SUBJECT: (C) LITHUANIA MAY PLACE CAVEAT ON FORCES DEPLOYING
TO AFGHANISTAN
REF: VILNIUS 393
Classified By: POL/ECON CHIEF REBECCA DUNHAM FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D
)
1. (C) SUMMARY: Lithuania may be forced to place a caveat
related to Close Air Support on special forces personnel
scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan in July. Lithuania does
not have Joint Terminal Air Controllers (JTACs) who are
certified for NATO air-to-ground operations. DAO and ODC are
working through national channels to secure JTAC training for
the required personnel as soon as possible. The GOL has now
identified a longer-term more systemic problem that Lithuania
does not have a national process for JTAC certification. End
summary.
2. (C) On June 7 Saulius Gasiunis, Director of the NATO/EU
Department at the MOD notified the U.S. and British DATTs
that Lithuania may be forced to place a caveat related to
Close Air Support on special forces personnel scheduled to
deploy to Afghanistan in July under the International
Security Assistance Force - Special Operations Command
Coordination Element (ISAF-SOCCE) currently commanded by the
British. Gasiunis said the reason for the caveat was that
Lithuania does not have JTACs who are certified for NATO
air-to-ground operations. He requested that the UK provide
JTAC training to Lithuanian special forces as soon as
possible.
3. (C) We had previously informed the GOL of the requirements
for JTAC certification as defined in the NATO Standardization
Agreement (STANAG) 3797. In particular we pointed out that
certification of JTACs is a national responsibility. Each
NATO member country must create its own certification
process. Lithuania had never created a certification system
because of its small size and because it had not previously
needed to certify any JTAC personnel.
4. (S) As reported reftel, Defense Minister Olekas asked for
help with this problem on May 28, hoping that training
conducted by the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command
(AFSOC) in 2004 - 2006 would help the Lithuanians get NATO
certification. This training was conducted with the
understanding that Lithuanian trained personnel would become
familiar with U.S. JTAC procedures in Afghanistan. These
personnel never called for Close Air Support on their own
during previous deployments; they always had a USAF combat
controller with them. This previous training was not meant
to provide STANAG required qualifications.
5. (C) The GOL had also hoped training received by two
officers at Spangdahlem Airbase in Germany in 2006 and 2007
would help meet the STANAG requirements. Unfortunately these
two officers are conventional land forces officers and they
do not have the other training necessary to operate in a SOF
unit.
6. (C) To help Lithuania deploy its Special Forces with
certified JTACs in the shortest possible timeframe, Post is
seeking immediate training possibilities for SOF officers.
ODC tested five of the best English-speaking Lithuanian
Special Forces officers on June 15. Three of the five passed
the test and so meet the U.S. qualifications to go to
Spangdahlem to train. In addition, they will need to take
the NATO English test at the Lithuanian Military Academy on
June 19 in order to meet the STANAG standard. If at least
two of them pass both tests, ODC is working with Spangdahlem
to schedule training as soon as possible. While the earliest
possible training date is July 23 - August 10, we understand
that course is full. At this stage we have been guaranteed
two slots for the Lithuanians in the September 4 - 21 course.
We have also suggested to the British the possibility of
having these officers take a similar JTAC course in the UK
that covers STANAG initial qualification requirements.
7. (U) Once the Lithuanian JTACs have met the training
requirements outlined in STANAG 3797, a general officer from
the Lithuanian military must write and sign a letter stating
that these officers are NATO JTAC certified.
CLOUD
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/12/2017
TAGS: MOPS MARR MCAP AF LH
SUBJECT: (C) LITHUANIA MAY PLACE CAVEAT ON FORCES DEPLOYING
TO AFGHANISTAN
REF: VILNIUS 393
Classified By: POL/ECON CHIEF REBECCA DUNHAM FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D
)
1. (C) SUMMARY: Lithuania may be forced to place a caveat
related to Close Air Support on special forces personnel
scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan in July. Lithuania does
not have Joint Terminal Air Controllers (JTACs) who are
certified for NATO air-to-ground operations. DAO and ODC are
working through national channels to secure JTAC training for
the required personnel as soon as possible. The GOL has now
identified a longer-term more systemic problem that Lithuania
does not have a national process for JTAC certification. End
summary.
2. (C) On June 7 Saulius Gasiunis, Director of the NATO/EU
Department at the MOD notified the U.S. and British DATTs
that Lithuania may be forced to place a caveat related to
Close Air Support on special forces personnel scheduled to
deploy to Afghanistan in July under the International
Security Assistance Force - Special Operations Command
Coordination Element (ISAF-SOCCE) currently commanded by the
British. Gasiunis said the reason for the caveat was that
Lithuania does not have JTACs who are certified for NATO
air-to-ground operations. He requested that the UK provide
JTAC training to Lithuanian special forces as soon as
possible.
3. (C) We had previously informed the GOL of the requirements
for JTAC certification as defined in the NATO Standardization
Agreement (STANAG) 3797. In particular we pointed out that
certification of JTACs is a national responsibility. Each
NATO member country must create its own certification
process. Lithuania had never created a certification system
because of its small size and because it had not previously
needed to certify any JTAC personnel.
4. (S) As reported reftel, Defense Minister Olekas asked for
help with this problem on May 28, hoping that training
conducted by the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command
(AFSOC) in 2004 - 2006 would help the Lithuanians get NATO
certification. This training was conducted with the
understanding that Lithuanian trained personnel would become
familiar with U.S. JTAC procedures in Afghanistan. These
personnel never called for Close Air Support on their own
during previous deployments; they always had a USAF combat
controller with them. This previous training was not meant
to provide STANAG required qualifications.
5. (C) The GOL had also hoped training received by two
officers at Spangdahlem Airbase in Germany in 2006 and 2007
would help meet the STANAG requirements. Unfortunately these
two officers are conventional land forces officers and they
do not have the other training necessary to operate in a SOF
unit.
6. (C) To help Lithuania deploy its Special Forces with
certified JTACs in the shortest possible timeframe, Post is
seeking immediate training possibilities for SOF officers.
ODC tested five of the best English-speaking Lithuanian
Special Forces officers on June 15. Three of the five passed
the test and so meet the U.S. qualifications to go to
Spangdahlem to train. In addition, they will need to take
the NATO English test at the Lithuanian Military Academy on
June 19 in order to meet the STANAG standard. If at least
two of them pass both tests, ODC is working with Spangdahlem
to schedule training as soon as possible. While the earliest
possible training date is July 23 - August 10, we understand
that course is full. At this stage we have been guaranteed
two slots for the Lithuanians in the September 4 - 21 course.
We have also suggested to the British the possibility of
having these officers take a similar JTAC course in the UK
that covers STANAG initial qualification requirements.
7. (U) Once the Lithuanian JTACs have met the training
requirements outlined in STANAG 3797, a general officer from
the Lithuanian military must write and sign a letter stating
that these officers are NATO JTAC certified.
CLOUD