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07VIENTIANE453
2007-05-30 10:23:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Vientiane
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LIKE-MINDED GROUP FAVORS INDIVIDUAL DEMARCHES ON

Tags:  LA PGOV PHUM PREF PREL TH GE 
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SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/30/2017
TAGS: LA PGOV PHUM PREF PREL TH GE
SUBJECT: LIKE-MINDED GROUP FAVORS INDIVIDUAL DEMARCHES ON
RECENT HMONG RETURNEES

REF: A. STATE 72843


B. VIENTIANE 288

C. VIENTIANE 110

D. VIENTIANE 205

E. VIENTIANE 442

Classified By: Mary Grace McGeehan, Charge d'Affaires a.i. Reason: 1.4
b and d.

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 VIENTIANE 000453

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/30/2017
TAGS: LA PGOV PHUM PREF PREL TH GE
SUBJECT: LIKE-MINDED GROUP FAVORS INDIVIDUAL DEMARCHES ON
RECENT HMONG RETURNEES

REF: A. STATE 72843


B. VIENTIANE 288

C. VIENTIANE 110

D. VIENTIANE 205

E. VIENTIANE 442

Classified By: Mary Grace McGeehan, Charge d'Affaires a.i. Reason: 1.4
b and d.


1. (C) Summary: At a May 30 meeting of representatives of
like-minded countries, the Charge proposed a joint demarche
requesting international access to recent Hmong returnees
from Thailand per Ref A. The other embassy representatives
agreed that these concerns should be raised with the Lao
government, but they preferred separate efforts rather than a
joint demarche, which they thought would be
counterproductive. End summary.


2. (C) The Charge and Acting DCM joined representatives of
the UN Resrep's office, the EU, and the embassies of Germany,
Poland, Sweden, and France on May 30 at a meeting hosted by
the German Ambassador to discuss recent developments,
including the May 25 deportation from Thailand to Laos of 30
or 31 ethnic Hmong. As instructed in Ref A, the Charge
proposed a joint demarche pressing for international access
to and monitoring of Hmong refugees, including this group.
Access to this group and others, she said, would bolster
international confidence in the Thai-Lao General Border
Committee approach to dealing with the larger population of
Hmong at the Petchaboon settlement.


3. (C) German Ambassador Peter Wienand, who has assumed the
leading role among Europeans here on human rights issues
during the Germans, EU presidency, expressed agreement with
these concerns. He said that he had even considered
requesting an emergency meeting over the weekend but had
decided that would not be necessary given the limited options
available to the international community once the May 25
deportation had taken place. In his view, a joint demarche
would be counterproductive. Last year's attempt to deliver a
joint demarche to express concern about 26 Hmong children
detained by the Lao following their irregular deportation

from Thailand went "terribly wrong." (Note: The Foreign
Minister refused to allow the ambassadors to deliver the
demarche. End note.) The GOL, he said, sees joint demarches
as a sign of distrust. Over the last year, he said, "we
can't deny the positive moves" that the GOL has taken. This
includes allowing diplomats access to groups of former
insurgents resettled among the general population (Refs B, C)
and the "identification" of the 21 girls among the group of
26 (Ref D) (although, he noted, their situation while in
detention was "not all rosy"). Other participants agreed
that individual approaches would be more effective than a
joint demarche.


4. (C) Ambassador Wienand said that he will raise these
concerns during a June 1 meeting with Ministry of Foreign
Affairs spokesperson Yong Chanthalangsy, who has been the
international community's most important interlocutor on
refugee and resettlement issues. He also plans to meet with
Vice Foreign Minister Phongsavath Boupha soon and will raise
the issues with him as well. He proposed that other
embassies also take advantage of opportunities to raise these
concerns. The Acting DCM noted that he has requested an
appointment with Mr. Yong.


5. (C) In order to ensure that the international community
delivers a consistent message, Ambassador Wienand proposed a
common set of talking points that would serve as guidelines
in the missions' bilateral meetings with the GOL. There was
a discussion on what points should be included, which
Ambassador Wienand summarized as follows in an e-mail he sent
after the meeting:
1) Recognition of the positive steps and the changed attitude
of the government with regard to the Hmong refugee problem.
(Note: This is a reference to the Lao government's reversal
of its previous blanket opposition to accepting ethnic Hmong
for resettlement.)
2) Emphasis on the importance of a solution of the refugee
problem for the human rights image of Laos.
3) Demand of humane treatment of returned refugees.
4) Demand for regular access to returned refugees, and
resettled "remote people" for the international community
and/or a specialized international organization like UNHCR

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(not very likely at the moment). (Note: The Lao government
closed the UNHCR liaison office here in 1999.)
5) Offer of assistance for resettlement programs for returned
refugees, and resettled "remote people." (Note: The Charge
noted during the meeting that countries other than the U.S.
are best positioned to provide this assistance, since the Lao
government would be unlikely to accept assistance from the
U.S.)
6) Arguing for a face-saving and humane solution for the 156
refugees in the Nongkhai detention center (quiet release and
travel to host countries).
(Note: During the discussion, the Charge and Acting DCM noted
that the International Committee on the Red Cross (ICRC),
which is already quietly working with the Lao Red Cross to
provide assistance to resettled people, is best placed to
play the role envisioned in point #4. We will ask Ambassador
Wienand to revise this point to include a specific mention of
ICRC.)


6. (C) Comment: Given the lack of support for a joint
demarche, we will seek opportunities to raise our concerns
regarding the recent returnees with the Lao government,
following up on the broader concerns expressed by Ambassador
Haslach during her farewell call on Foreign Minister
Thongloun (Ref E),which took place before the May 25
deportation. End comment.
MCGEEHAN