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2007-08-06 14:54:00
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ALLIES APPRECIATE DAS KRAMER'S BRIEFING ON

Tags:  NATO PREL MARR KCFE RU 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/05/2017
TAGS: NATO PREL MARR KCFE RU
SUBJECT: ALLIES APPRECIATE DAS KRAMER'S BRIEFING ON
US/RUSSIA EXPERTS TALKS

REF: STATE 107265

Classified By: Charge Richard G. Olson for reasons 1.4 (b),(d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L USNATO 000446

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/05/2017
TAGS: NATO PREL MARR KCFE RU
SUBJECT: ALLIES APPRECIATE DAS KRAMER'S BRIEFING ON
US/RUSSIA EXPERTS TALKS

REF: STATE 107265

Classified By: Charge Richard G. Olson for reasons 1.4 (b),(d)


1. (C) Summary: Allies praised DAS David Kramer's briefing to
Allies on the US/Russia experts' talks in Washington (July
30-31) on missile defense (MD) and CFE. Allies expect US
leadership in these negotiations with Russia, and greatly
appreciate our efforts to brief and consult with them.
Kramer noted the US is very interested in Russian proposals
on MD cooperation, but disagrees with the Russian
precondition to halt US plans with Czech/Poland. On CFE,
Kramer reported that the US proposed a forward-leaning
concept of reciprocal actions between Russia and the Alliance
to break the Adapted CFE deadlock and facilitate the
fulfillment of the Istanbul Commitments. In follow-up
questions, a pessimistic mood prevailed among Allies
concerning the inflexible Russian negotiating posture on
these critical issues. End Summary.

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Missile Defense
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2. (C) EUR Deputy Assistant Secretary David Kramer briefed
NATO political advisors on July 30 experts' talks on missile
defense (points were drawn reftel). He emphasized US
interest in cooperation and receptiveness to the Russian
offer of Gabala and Armavir, but noted we disagree with
Russian insistence that it be mutually exclusive of the US
plans in the Czech Republic and Poland. Kramer noted
divergence on the threat perception, but stressed this is
just the first of three related meetings before the 2 2
ministerial meeting in mid-October.


3. (C) Germany asked if the Russians categorically rejected
our MD proposals. Kramer responded that the Russians were
critical but did not reject them out right. He said Russia
does not recognize the threat from Iran and therefore, saw no
need for a system with interceptors and a guidance radar
stationed in Poland and the Czech Republic at this juncture.
The Netherlands asked if there was a real possibility for a
break-through. Kramer said while it is true that there were
no breakthroughs, it is still too early to predict. The US

will work to narrow the divergence on the threat assessment
and has shown the Russians our earnest desire to cooperate on
missile defense with them. The Czech Ambassador asked
whether we have contingency plans since Kosovo, CFE, and MD
will all come to a head at the end of 2007. Kramer said the
Duma elections in early December will also come into play.
He said the Russians will likely try to force us to choose
from a range of issues and then tell us the price on each
issue; we should avoid trade-offs and deal with each issue on
its own merits. Greece asked whether Kislyak specifically
linked MD and CFE. Kramer said the Russians did not do so
explicitly, but their insistence on dealing with CFE and MD
in the same group of meetings might imply such a perspective
from Moscow. (NOTE: President Putin and others have
discussed both issues together in the past underscoring that
there is such a link in Russian minds. END NOTE)

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Allies Appreciate US Consultations on CFE
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4. (C) DAS Kramer provided Allies with copies of the talking
points the U.S. shared with the Russian team during
U.S.-Russian CFE consultations July 31. He recalled that the
ideas reflected in the points had been discussed in general
terms at the HLTF on July 26, and that we appreciated
Allies, input. He said the U.S. had made an effort to be
forward-leaning with the Russians in outlining the concept
for an agreement on parallel actions to break the impasse on
Adapted CFE ratification and fulfillment of the Istanbul
commitments. We had also made clear to the Russians that we
planned to work closely with Allies on any new ideas. He
said that DFM Kislyak had agreed to review the U.S. concept,
but that a main theme in Russia,s initial response was that
Russia,s concerns were not limited to ratification of
Adapted CFE by NATO Allies. Kramer noted that the Russians

had raised concerns about the U.S. ratification process, the
Baltic States, the flank regime, and "substantial combat
forces" as the phrase is used in the NATO-Russia Founding Act.


5. (C) Kramer considered Kislyak,s initial, skeptical
response predictable, if less than encouraging. He stressed
that an agreement to pursue parallel actions will require
Russia to fulfill its end of the bargain. It at least was
positive that the Russians had agreed to pursue further
discussions in a follow-on U.S.-Russia senior experts,
session.


6. (C) The Spanish Ambassador asked if the Russians are
really interested in changing the flank regime. Kramer told
him that the Russians criticized the U.S. paper for not
including the flank, but also raised many other issues.
Allies welcomed DAS Kramer,s upcoming consultations in Kyiv
and Chisinau. Several were concerned by reports of Moscow,s
arm twisting in both capitals to support Russian steps to
undermine CFE.

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COMMENT
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7. (C) The start of the summer lull did not dull interest in
DAS Kramer,s briefing. We invited political advisors, but
three Ambassadors and four Charges also showed up. This is
very unusual for the status-conscience Europeans at NATO,
especially in August. Allies told us afterwards that they
greatly appreciated the briefing. There is anxiety among
some Allies that the U.S. may cut a deal with Russia, and
Kramer,s briefings have noticeably reduced Allied anxiety
about "secret negotiations." Kramer, in fact, explicitly
reassured Allies that "secret deals" between the U.S. and
Russia were out of the question. The UK, in particular,
encouraged us to continue the transparency on bilateral CFE
talks with the Russians and to consider holding the next HLTF
before the next US/Russia experts, meeting so that -- as
the July 26 HLTF preceded the Kislyak meeting -- Allies are
again consulted beforehand. Most Allies seem to support US
leadership on this issue, but point out that it is
Conventional Forces in "Europe" -- a point Kramer also made
-- and hope we will continue briefing (and consulting) on
CFE. The NATO International Staff reminded Kramer
(privately) that past CFE endgames have hinged on US
leadership on the margins of continuous CFE discussions and
said many Allies expect a similar way forward this time. End
comment.
NULAND