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07USNATO177 2007-03-20 09:14:00 CONFIDENTIAL Mission USNATO
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NATO/VCC: MARCH 8 VCC EXPERTS MEETING

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/12/2017
TAGS: PREL PARM NATO KCFE OSCE
SUBJECT: NATO/VCC: MARCH 8 VCC EXPERTS MEETING

REF: A) STATE 29006 B) AC/319-WP(2006)0015-REV1(CFE)

Classified By: Political Advisor Stu Seldowitz for reasons 1.4 (b/d).




1. (C) Summary: After the U.S. representative executed
guidance, the experts agreed (ad ref for Germany, whose
representative agreed but stated that he had to go back to
Berlin for full approval) that revision 2 of reference B
would focus in Annex 1 of table B as directly answering the
tasking, but that there would be an Annex 2 containing the
pertinent information from the other tables in REV 1 of
reference B. A line-by-line review of each vehicle entry in
REV1 of Reference B identified numerous small changes to be
made. The staff will issue a revised POET paper (REV 2) in
the near future, and if there are not major problems
identified by states, REV 2 will go under silence for the
next VCC. The staff had planned on discussing digital
cameras, GPS, and "Reporting BRM-Ks," but too many states,
including the U.S. had not known this and the discussion was
deferred until the experts meeting on the morning of the 29
March VCC. End Summary.



2. (C) Tables:

In all Tables, the column currently entitled "Allies
Submitting Change/Comment" will be deleted;



A. Table A will now appear in Annex 2 as useful information
for Vienna, but not the direct response to their specific
tasking; and

-- The BRM-1S will be deleted since it is declared by Russia
as an AIFV look-a-like



B. Table B will be in Annex 1 of REV 2 and is the basic
answer to the tasking;

-- TLE in Table B that are variants of TLE already listed in
the POET will be deleted;

-- Nations were requested to provide locations where vehicles
in Table B were observed by inspectors (DTRA representative
at the meeting has already done this);

-- A vehicle observed by Germany at an inspection in
Roshchinskiy in Russia (briefed at the beginning of the
meeting), the BTR-60 R-145BM (a BTR 60 APC changed in
appearance to incorporate a BTR-80 engine), will be added to
Table B.

-- BTR-D G will be deleted from Table B as the BTR-D
(including all models) is already in the POET; and

-- MT-LB 9P149 and MT-LB SA-13 (Strela 10) will be deleted
from Table B because they were in existence when the Treaty
was signed and were not included after extensive discussions.



C. Table C will be in Annex 2 as useful information for
Vienna, but not the direct response to their specific
tasking; and

--MT-LB (MT-LBu) ARK will be moved from Table C to Table B;

-- BMP-1 IPR will be moved to Table B as an AIFV look-alike;
and

-- BMD-1 P, BMP-1 K, BMP-1 P, BMP-1 PK and BMP-2 K will be
deleted from Table C because they are variants of TLE already
listed in the POET.



D. Table D will be in Annex 2 as useful information for
Vienna, but not the direct response to their specific
tasking; and

-- Where missing in REV 1, the comments will now show from
were information came (e.g., "open sources/Internet");

-- References in comments to "Russian exchange of photographs
from 1990" will be changed to read "Soviet exchange . . " and

-- BMP-2 BMO-1 and MT-LB (MT-LBu) TMPK will be moved to Table
B since they have been observed by inspectors.



E. Table E will be in Annex 2 as useful information for
Vienna, but not the direct response to their specific
tasking;


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-- The title of Table E will now refer to equipment in the
developmental stage, as these items could be under R&D or
manufacturer's T&E;

-- A vehicle observed by Germany at an inspection in
Roshchinskiy in Russia (briefed at the beginning of the
meeting), the BTR-80 R-439BK1 SATCOM, will be added to Table
E; and

-- BTR-80 COBRA-K will be changed to BTR-70 COBRA-K.



F. Table F will be deleted completely.



3. (SBU) Later, after the meeting, in response to inquiries
from Mr. In Den Bosch (the meeting chair), the U.S.
representative suggested that the staff circulate REV 2 as
soon as possible and determine quickly whether states had
major problems with the changes (and in particular whether
Germany could accept the new two-annex format). Then, if
there were major problems, the experts could meet again on 29
March, but if there were not, a clean version could be put on
silence for 29 March at the VCC. The impression received was
that this suggestion would be followed, but that is not fully
certain.
NULAND