Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
07THEHAGUE2000
2007-11-20 14:57:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy The Hague
Cable title:
CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION (CWC): U.S.- CHINA
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C O N F I D E N T I A L THE HAGUE 002000
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
STATE FOR ISN/CB, VCI/CCA, L/ACV, IO/S,
SECDEF FOR OSD/ISP
JOINT STAFF FOR DD PMA-A FOR WTC
COMMERCE FOR BIS (GOLDMAN)
NSC FOR SMITH
WINPAC FOR KRON
E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/07/2017
TAGS: CH PARM PREL CWC
SUBJECT: CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION (CWC): U.S.- CHINA
BILATERAL MEETING ON THE MARGINS OF THE TWELFTH CONFERENCE
OF STATES PARTIES
Classified By: Permanent Representative Eric M. Javits for reasons 1.5
(B) and (D).
This is CWC-89-07.
C O N F I D E N T I A L THE HAGUE 002000
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
STATE FOR ISN/CB, VCI/CCA, L/ACV, IO/S,
SECDEF FOR OSD/ISP
JOINT STAFF FOR DD PMA-A FOR WTC
COMMERCE FOR BIS (GOLDMAN)
NSC FOR SMITH
WINPAC FOR KRON
E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/07/2017
TAGS: CH PARM PREL CWC
SUBJECT: CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION (CWC): U.S.- CHINA
BILATERAL MEETING ON THE MARGINS OF THE TWELFTH CONFERENCE
OF STATES PARTIES
Classified By: Permanent Representative Eric M. Javits for reasons 1.5
(B) and (D).
This is CWC-89-07.
1. (C) SUMMARY: A/S DeSutter requested a meeting with the
Chinese Ambassador on November 6, on the margins of the
Conference of the States Parties in The Hague, to discuss
separating the CWC Article IX compliance dialogue and the CWC
implementation dialogue that includes assistance on abandoned
chemical weapons and U.S. chemical industry practices. A/S
DeSutter was accompanied by Ambassador Javits and U.S.
compliance technical experts Lewis and Parker. The Chinese
side was represented by Ambassador Xue Hanqin, Chen Kai, Li
Hong and representatives from the Chinese delegation.
Ambassador Xue listened to A/S DeSutter,s request for the
separation of the issues and agreed to convey the message to
her government. Xue stated that Chen Kai who is from Beijing
is the key interlocutor on Chinese CWC compliance and would
be responsible for addressing this issue. Both sides agreed
that U.S. and Chinese CW experts should work together to
resolve any CWC compliance concerns.
End Summary.
2. (C) BACKGROUND: A/S DeSutter requested the meeting to
continue the on-going exchange between the U.S. and China on
compliance issues since 1998 and the request for U.S.
assistance on abandoned chemical weapons and U.S. chemical
industry practices. China had proposed that it host the next
bilateral dialogue on CWC-related issues in Beijing in
November 2007. As part of the dialogue China has offered a
visit to its ACW site in Nanjing and a visit to a declared
and inspected chemical industry facility in Shanghai. The
U.S. CWC interagency agreed to accept the proposed visit to
the ACW site, but was unable to agree to an alternative
compliance-related site visit as part of the on-going
dialogue. The Chinese had also agreed to two days of
consultation for the wide range of issues contained in
China,s September 2007 proposal. The November meeting was
postponed by the U.S. side.
3. (C) On November 6, DeSutter referred to the Verification,
Compliance and Implementation Bureau,s role in examining
verification and compliance issues for a wide range of arms
control and nonproliferation agreements. She also emphasized
that the U.S. has had positive results in addressing
compliance concerns with countries using the provisions of
Article IX of the CWC to conduct consultations and site
visits. DeSutter further clarified that the group of
technical experts that focus primarily on verification and
compliance issues are a separate group from the experts that
address CW demilitarization and U.S. chemical industry
issues. A/S DeSutter and Ambassador Javits told Xue that
they wanted to explain Washington,s request to the Chinese
delegation in advance of proceeding to Beijing with the U.S.
recommendations.
4. (C) In a sidebar conversation, Chen Kai told U.S.
compliance experts that China had expected to discuss
compliance questions with the U.S. during the November visit.
This position differs from the Chinese Ministry of Foreign
Affairs Arms Control and Disarmament Department Chemical and
Biological Weapons Division Deputy Director Dai Huaicheng,
who had clarified through Embassy Beijing in September 2007
that a discussion on compliance was not included in China,s
proposal. U.S. compliance experts also inquired of Chen Kai
whether China was open to a larger delegation than the five
experts that the U.S. allowed during a joint Chinese/Japanese
demilitarization visit to the U.S. in July 2007. Chen said
that he would be open to accepting a larger delegation from
the U.S. and stated that he would also be flexible in
separating out the group of experts who were not interested
in the ACW site visit. U.S. compliance experts agreed to
follow-up on this discussion with a proposal to Beijing on
how to approach the Article IX compliance discussions.
5. (U) This message has been cleared by A/S DeSutter.
6. (U) JAVITS SENDS.
Gallagher
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
STATE FOR ISN/CB, VCI/CCA, L/ACV, IO/S,
SECDEF FOR OSD/ISP
JOINT STAFF FOR DD PMA-A FOR WTC
COMMERCE FOR BIS (GOLDMAN)
NSC FOR SMITH
WINPAC FOR KRON
E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/07/2017
TAGS: CH PARM PREL CWC
SUBJECT: CHEMICAL WEAPONS CONVENTION (CWC): U.S.- CHINA
BILATERAL MEETING ON THE MARGINS OF THE TWELFTH CONFERENCE
OF STATES PARTIES
Classified By: Permanent Representative Eric M. Javits for reasons 1.5
(B) and (D).
This is CWC-89-07.
1. (C) SUMMARY: A/S DeSutter requested a meeting with the
Chinese Ambassador on November 6, on the margins of the
Conference of the States Parties in The Hague, to discuss
separating the CWC Article IX compliance dialogue and the CWC
implementation dialogue that includes assistance on abandoned
chemical weapons and U.S. chemical industry practices. A/S
DeSutter was accompanied by Ambassador Javits and U.S.
compliance technical experts Lewis and Parker. The Chinese
side was represented by Ambassador Xue Hanqin, Chen Kai, Li
Hong and representatives from the Chinese delegation.
Ambassador Xue listened to A/S DeSutter,s request for the
separation of the issues and agreed to convey the message to
her government. Xue stated that Chen Kai who is from Beijing
is the key interlocutor on Chinese CWC compliance and would
be responsible for addressing this issue. Both sides agreed
that U.S. and Chinese CW experts should work together to
resolve any CWC compliance concerns.
End Summary.
2. (C) BACKGROUND: A/S DeSutter requested the meeting to
continue the on-going exchange between the U.S. and China on
compliance issues since 1998 and the request for U.S.
assistance on abandoned chemical weapons and U.S. chemical
industry practices. China had proposed that it host the next
bilateral dialogue on CWC-related issues in Beijing in
November 2007. As part of the dialogue China has offered a
visit to its ACW site in Nanjing and a visit to a declared
and inspected chemical industry facility in Shanghai. The
U.S. CWC interagency agreed to accept the proposed visit to
the ACW site, but was unable to agree to an alternative
compliance-related site visit as part of the on-going
dialogue. The Chinese had also agreed to two days of
consultation for the wide range of issues contained in
China,s September 2007 proposal. The November meeting was
postponed by the U.S. side.
3. (C) On November 6, DeSutter referred to the Verification,
Compliance and Implementation Bureau,s role in examining
verification and compliance issues for a wide range of arms
control and nonproliferation agreements. She also emphasized
that the U.S. has had positive results in addressing
compliance concerns with countries using the provisions of
Article IX of the CWC to conduct consultations and site
visits. DeSutter further clarified that the group of
technical experts that focus primarily on verification and
compliance issues are a separate group from the experts that
address CW demilitarization and U.S. chemical industry
issues. A/S DeSutter and Ambassador Javits told Xue that
they wanted to explain Washington,s request to the Chinese
delegation in advance of proceeding to Beijing with the U.S.
recommendations.
4. (C) In a sidebar conversation, Chen Kai told U.S.
compliance experts that China had expected to discuss
compliance questions with the U.S. during the November visit.
This position differs from the Chinese Ministry of Foreign
Affairs Arms Control and Disarmament Department Chemical and
Biological Weapons Division Deputy Director Dai Huaicheng,
who had clarified through Embassy Beijing in September 2007
that a discussion on compliance was not included in China,s
proposal. U.S. compliance experts also inquired of Chen Kai
whether China was open to a larger delegation than the five
experts that the U.S. allowed during a joint Chinese/Japanese
demilitarization visit to the U.S. in July 2007. Chen said
that he would be open to accepting a larger delegation from
the U.S. and stated that he would also be flexible in
separating out the group of experts who were not interested
in the ACW site visit. U.S. compliance experts agreed to
follow-up on this discussion with a proposal to Beijing on
how to approach the Article IX compliance discussions.
5. (U) This message has been cleared by A/S DeSutter.
6. (U) JAVITS SENDS.
Gallagher