Identifier
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07JEDDAH492
2007-11-27 12:03:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Consulate Jeddah
Cable title:  

HEJAZIS UPSET BY FATWA ABUSE IN ONGOING ISLAMIC

Tags:  PHUM PGOV SOCI KISL KWMN SA 
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SUBJECT: HEJAZIS UPSET BY FATWA ABUSE IN ONGOING ISLAMIC
THEOLOGICAL BATTLE

Classified By: Consul General Tatiana C. Gfoeller for Reasons 1.4 (b) a
nd (d).

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SUBJECT: HEJAZIS UPSET BY FATWA ABUSE IN ONGOING ISLAMIC
THEOLOGICAL BATTLE

Classified By: Consul General Tatiana C. Gfoeller for Reasons 1.4 (b) a
nd (d).


1. (C) BEGIN SUMMARY: Dr. Izzat Atiyya of al-Azhar
University's Hadith Department issued a polemical fatwa last
May arguing that women and men could work together provided
that they become family members through breastfeeding. This
is one of several fatwas that the Islamic establishment has
issued recently, causing embarrassment and anger to a number
of Muslims in the Hejaz. Several Hejazis spoke out against
this fatwa and against others of comparable absurdity,
including those originating from Saudi Islamic authorities.
Attiya's fatwa has incited much discussion among Jeddawis of
the ongoing debate between traditional and contemporary
interpretations of Islam, and the decline in the credibility
of Islamic institutions. END SUMMARY.


2. (C) The head of Egypt's al-Azhar University's Hadith
Department (widely respected and listened to in the Hejaz),
Dr. Izzat Atiyya, recently issued a controversial fatwa
concerning breastfeeding. The fatwa stated that a woman who
is required to work in private with a man who is not a member
of her immediate family - a situation forbidden by Islamic
law - can resolve this conflict by breastfeeding the man,
thereby making him a member of her family. Hejazis -
traditionally the more open to polemics of the Saudis - were
quick to react. Some interpreted it as a legitimate means to
circumvent gender segregation in the workplace, an
increasingly hot topic in the Western Province, and others -
specifically some female Jeddawi entrepreneurs - as a
complete joke.

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Fatwa Embarrasses and Angers Hejazis
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3. (C) The breastfeeding fatwa has angered many Hejazis.
Some Hejazis called-in to Cairo talk shows to criticize the
edict. A Hejazi doctor stated: "I am a physician working in
Saudi Arabia. Most of my Muslim colleagues are just ordinary
medical blokes (and we all work with women medics at all

hours) and are all terribly embarrassed by this clown and his
fatwa." A Saudi blog read often by Jeddawis warned against
further risk of "global mockery."


4. (C) This is not the first time that a Sheikh has issued a
fatwa that has roiled Post's Hejazi contacts. Last spring,
al-Azhar University issued a fatwa stating that "drinking the
urine of the Prophet Muhammad was deemed a blessing." A
number of our contacts reacted with embarrassment; others
became defensive, accusing the Western press of trying to
humiliate Muslim believers by "playing up" this story. By
contrast, in 2001, Saudi Arabia's Higher Committee for
Scientific Research and Islamic Law issued a fatwa that
banned Pokeman (a Japanese cartoon character) because it
"promoted gambling and was a front for Israel." Several
Jeddawis said that people simply ignored it.


5. (C) When the Consul General discussed the topic with a
highly-cultured, IDB official, he expressed utter disgust by
the fatwa, stating: "We Muslims never miss a chance to shoot
ourselves in the foot. This is a lot worse than the Muhammad
cartoons but we were the ones making ourselves look
ridiculous this time, not the Danes." However, he hastened
to assure the CG that canonically, the fatwa is correct. He
referred to a hadith in which a friend of Muhammad's asks his
advice on how he could spend the night with a woman to whom
he is not related, without sinning. In the story, the woman
is breastfeeding a child and her house is on his way as he
sets out for a pious trip. Muhammad responds that he should
drink of her milk so that they will become like mother and
son, which would preclude them from having intimate
relations. The IDB official added with some embarrassment:
"Of course this would be impractical in modern, large offices
where large numbers of men and women work together, but
according to the Koran, this fatwa is the only way to go."

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Jeddawis Lament Corrupt Fatwa Industry
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6. (C) As no central authority controls Islamic doctrine,
there exists a lot of debate among Jeddawis over traditional
and contemporary interpretations of Islam. This is most
apparent in the issuance and retraction of bizarre fatwas
such as Atiyya's. A number of our contacts bemoan that,
despite calls for reform of the "fatwa industry" (a term
coined by Islamic scholar Sheikh Abdullah bin Beih),change
has been absent. Most recently, many Jeddawis cited as
further proof for the need to reform, the November issuance

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by two members of the Saudi Council of Ulemas, a fatwa
deeming camel beauty pageants "evil" and "a violation of
Islam."


7. (C) A number of forward-looking Jeddawis complain that as
Arab governments have co-opted religious institutions as a
means to maintain legitimacy, such institutions have lost
credibility and independence. They point out that Saudi
Arabia in particular has ample leverage over al-Azhar
University. The SAG provides the faculty with sabbaticals to
the Kingdom as well as stipends for "services rendered to
Islam." Saudi Arabia benefits greatly from such influence,
as was the case in 1990 when it asked the University to issue
a fatwa permitting the presence of non-Muslim troops to
protect it against the Iraqi government. Yet the SAG has
remained silent on the latest controversies. It seems that,
as often happens, Hejazi intellectuals are eager to come to
grips with the more controversial aspects of contemporary
Islam.
GFOELLER