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07JAKARTA1618
2007-06-11 09:47:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Jakarta
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E.TIMOR'S PRESIDENT MAKES INDONESIA DESTINATION OF

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/11/2012
TAGS: PREL PHUM PINS TT ID
SUBJECT: E.TIMOR'S PRESIDENT MAKES INDONESIA DESTINATION OF
FIRST STATE VISIT

REF: JAKARTA 1475

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Classified By: Political Officer Catherine E. Sweet,
Reasons 1.4(b) and (d)

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/11/2012
TAGS: PREL PHUM PINS TT ID
SUBJECT: E.TIMOR'S PRESIDENT MAKES INDONESIA DESTINATION OF
FIRST STATE VISIT

REF: JAKARTA 1475

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Classified By: Political Officer Catherine E. Sweet,
Reasons 1.4(b) and (d)


1. (C) Summary. President Jose Ramos-Horta's June 5 visit
to Indonesia was "very, very positive," according to Timorese
DCM Roberto Soares. He said that the two presidents discussed
bilateral economic and political issues (including border
demarcation),and agreed to extend the Commission on Truth
and Friendship's (CTF) mandate for an additional six months.
Soares was rather upbeat about the CTF's hearings thus far,
praising both presidents' commitment to the CTF process and
saying that the participation of high-level Indonesian
officials' indicated Indonesia's seriousness. Soares
acknowledged the skepticism of some Timorese about the CTF,
but said that the government still believes it is the best
way for now. Finally, Soares expressed strong support for
continuation of U.S.-Indonesian military-to-military
relations, saying that his government would oppose
termination of U.S. assistance to Indonesia. "The more the
U.S. has relations with Indonesia," Soares stressed, "the
more it benefits Timor Leste." End Summary.

Ramos-Horta in Indonesia: "Very, Very Positive" Visit
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2. (C) On June 11, Deputy Chief of Mission at the Embassy of
Timor Leste, Roberto Soares, gave us a read-out of President
Jose Ramos-Horta's June 5 visit to Indonesia. Soares
characterized the visit as "very, very positive," noting that
Ramos-Horta's decision to make Indonesia the site of his
first international visit was a gesture of respect. He said
that the two presidents discussed economic and political
issues, and agreed to extend the Commission on Truth and
Friendship's (CTF) mandate for an additional six months to
give the commissioners more time to finish their work.


3. (C) Soares described the atmosphere as friendly, pointing
out that President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (SBY) and
Ramos-Horta had known each other for some time and noting
that Ramos-Horta had visited Indonesia several times before

he became president. He called SBY equally committed to
establishing a good relationship, and said that SBY
appreciated the support Timor Leste had given it in
international fora (for example, supporting Indonesia's
membership on the UN Security Council and Human Rights
Commission).


4. (SBU) In a symbolic gesture, Ramos-Horta delivered part
of his official speech in Indonesian (although he himself
does not speak Indonesian),and he announced that the Timor
Leste government was promoting Bahasa Indonesia as one of its
two working languages. SBY in turn delivered one paragraph
of his speech in Tetum, one of Timor Leste's official
languages.

Indonesian-Timorese Relationship Continues to Improve
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5. (C) On bilateral issues, the two presidents discussed
border demarcation and security, particularly technical
issues concerning the Oecussi enclave (according to Soares,
96 percent of all border demarcation issues have been
finalized; the unresolved four percent are in the enclave of
Oecussi). The Oecussi border will be finalized during an
October meeting in Timor Leste, Soares said. He also
indicated that a Timorese army battalion will be stationed on
the border with Indonesia shortly to increase
military-to-military engagement (there are only police on the
Timorese side at present). Finally, the Timorese government
will be staffing a military attache position, either in
Jakarta or at their consulate in Kupang. Both countries, he
stressed, would like to settle outstanding border issues in a
friendly way.


6. (C) Over the coming years, Soares believes, both
countries will continue to commit to pursuing stronger
relations. He said that Indonesia will provide scholarships
for Timorese who would like to study in Indonesia, and is
looking into regularizing the immigration status of many
current students who entered Indonesia on tourist visas. For
its part, the Timor Leste government is considering ways to
help illegal Indonesians in Timor Leste, many of whom are
small businessmen.

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7. (C) In addition to his meetings with Yudhoyono,
Ramos-Horta paid courtesy calls on the upper and lower houses
of parliament (MPR and DPR). Soares said that the
legislators, who were mostly pleased with the encounters,
would like to enhance parliamentary-to-parliamentary
relations. Sensitive bilateral issues were not raised during
these visits, according to Soares.

Support for the Truth and Friendship Commission
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8. (C) During Ramos- Horta's visit, the two presidents
agreed to continue to use the Truth and Friendship Commission
(CTF) as the mechanism for addressing the human rights abuses
that occurred during Timor's independence, and agreed to
extend its mandate an additional six months. Said
Ramos-Horta of the CTF, "I believe that it will satisfy the
people of both sides and it will set a precedent for other
countries to deal with similar situations."


9. (C) Asked for his impressions of the CTF's hearings thus
far, Soares was upbeat. In his view, the participation of
high-level Indonesian officials in the Commission's hearings
demonstrates a certain level of recognition of past human
rights violations on the Indonesian side. Although he
cautioned that he could not judge whether the officials'
testimony was accurate or complete, he praised their
willingness to testify publicly as proof of Indonesia's
seriousness about the process.


10. (C) Soares indicated that Timorese witnesses have tended
to be more open and transparent than the Indonesians. With
regard to the Indonesian generals who have testified, he
noted their tendency to blame others for what happened,
particularly UNAMET. However, Soares cautioned, what the
generals said in public might be different from what they
told the commissioners privately. Only the commissioners can
assess the truth, Soares said, which is why the governments
agreed to the extension. (Note. Separately, human rights
activists have told us that they oppose any extension of the
CTF's mandate. They would support it only if the CTF's terms
of reference were changed to allow prosecution, a demand they
have made from the beginning. Also separately, one of the
commissioners said that the next CTF session, previously
scheduled for Kupang, West Timor, as reported Ref A, will now
be held in East Timor. In Kupang, the commission will run
community workshops. End note.)


11. (C) Soares said that Ramos-Horta is "very committed" to
continuing reconciliation via the CTF, as initiated by his
predecessor. Soares also repeatedly noted the GOI's
reciprocal commitment to the CTF process. Several months
ago, Soares noted, Foreign Minister Hassan Wirajuda told him
that SBY had personally contacted senior military officials
to discuss the CTF.


12. (C) He acknowledged a high degree of skepticism among
some segments of the Timorese public about whether their
government was correct in eschewing other avenues to redress
Indonesia's abuses, but declared that the government still
believes that the CTF is the best way for now. "Let's wait
to see the final result," Soares said. Based on that, as
well as the reaction of the Timorese and Indonesian people
and Timor Leste's "friends in the international community,"
the government of Timor Leste will decide on what further
action, if any, to take.

U.S. Military Relations with Indonesia Benefit Timor Leste
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13. (C) Soares expressed strong support for the continuation
of U.S.-Indonesian military-to-military relations, saying
that his government would oppose termination of U.S.
assistance for two reasons. First, he said, cutting off aid
would be damaging to the Indonesians, as it was in the past.
Second, and more important, Indonesia might interpret such
action as the U.S. taking Timor Leste's side against
Indonesia, which would hurt Indonesian-Timorese bilateral
relations. He noted that Indonesia had been suspicious of
U.S. military ship visits to and humanitarian activities in
Timor Leste, seeing them as proof of a "special relationship"
between the U.S. and Timor Leste. The restoration of
U.S.-Indonesian military relations helped lay that suspicion
to rest. However, Soares fears such issues could arise again

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if aid were terminated. "The more the U.S. has relations
with Indonesia," Soares stressed, "the more it benefits Timor
Leste." He noted that the Timorese president had made the
same point to then-Deputy Defense Secretary Wolfowitz during
a visit to the U.S. several years ago.


14. (C) In Soares's opinion, there is a real transformation
underway in the Indonesian military. While he recognized
that these reforms might not have trickled down to the lowest
level yet because Indonesia is such a big country, he said
that many in the highest levels recognize that mistakes were
made in the past.
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