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07ISLAMABAD1331
2007-03-24 06:57:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Islamabad
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INTERIOR MINISTER ON STATUS OF PAK-AFGHAN JIRGA

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/23/2017
TAGS: PREL PTER PREF PK AF
SUBJECT: INTERIOR MINISTER ON STATUS OF PAK-AFGHAN JIRGA
PLANNING

REF: A. ISLAMABAD 1094

B. ISLAMABAD 608

C. ISLAMABAD 298

Classified By: Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/23/2017
TAGS: PREL PTER PREF PK AF
SUBJECT: INTERIOR MINISTER ON STATUS OF PAK-AFGHAN JIRGA
PLANNING

REF: A. ISLAMABAD 1094

B. ISLAMABAD 608

C. ISLAMABAD 298

Classified By: Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (C) SUMMARY: In meetings with Assistant Secretary of State
for South and Central Asian Affairs Richard Boucher on March
15 and with Ambassador on March 19, Interior Minister and
Chairman of Pakistan's Jirga Commission Afthab Ahmed Khan
Sherpao reviewed the status of the Pak-Afghan jirga process.
He described a collegial, cooperative mood at the meetings
with the Afghan Jirga Commission March 12-13 in Islamabad,
but said that much work remained to prepare for the jirga.
The next Jirga Commission meeting will take place April 9-11
in Kabul. END SUMMARY.

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Good Vibrations at March 12-13 Jirga Commission Bilateral
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2. (C) Interor Minister Sherpao told Assistant Secretary
Boucher that he had a "good interaction" with the Afghan
delegation that visited Islamabad for the Jirga Commission
meeting March 12-13, emphasizing the "warm" atmospherics of
the meeting. He has known Syed Pir Ahmed Gilani, the
Chairman of Afghanistan's Jirga Commission, for a long time
and was pleased with this "first people-to-people
interaction" on the jirga. Sherpao expressed his
satisfaction that the Afghan side agreed on the importance of
lowering the heat in the Pak-Afghan relationship, building
trust and goodwill, and dealing with differences through the
jirga process rather than in the press. Sherpao said the
commissions also agreed that the result of the jirgas should
be the elimination of terrorism, especially Al Qaeda
elements, while addressing the root causes of the problem.
Sherpao added that the Afghan side acknowledged Pakistan's
efforts in the border areas. (Note: Sherpao lamented that
President Karzai is influenced by others with different
opinions. End note.) Ambassador stressed the current
momentum shift that makes this the right time to move forward
with jirgas: we are seeing locals' impatience with foreigners
in their areas; warmer Pak-Afghan relations; and the arrest

campaign against the Taliban.


3. (C) Foreign Minister Khurshid Kasuri touched on the Jirga
Commission meeting during the Ambassador's March 13 farewell
call. Kasuri hoped the commissions would, in addition to
planning the jirgas, enhance grassroots links between the two
nations. "People-to-people exchanges have made a tremendous
difference in our relationship with India," he said, "and
they should do so for Afghanistan as well."

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Sherpao's Thoughts on Jirga Composition
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4. (C) Sherpao told Boucher that the March 12-13 discussions
focused on the composition of the jirga and its terms of
reference. When Boucher pressed for specifics and deadlines
the two sides agreed to, Sherpao equivocated. He said
Pakistan raised no objection to a large jirga with
national-level representation, although Pakistan had no
experience with that type of jirga. "If they want 300 from
their side, we can have 300, too," he said. When Boucher
asked if Pakistan would only include traditional tribal
leaders as representatives, Sherpao said they would invite
"anyone who can help us." Sherpao later told Ambassador he

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thinks that the participation of prominent political party
members and elected officials will bring credibility to the
jirga process and will be a blow to those who want to create
problems.


5. (C) Sherpao was adamant that outside observers should not
attend the grand jirga, explaining that "for the optics" this
should be seen as the "will of the people of both sides" and
"outside presence could dilute the jirga's effectiveness."


6. (C) Sherpao also said that Pakistan is not opposed to
using smaller joint Pak-Afghan jirgas composed of prominent
people with local influence to help quell insurgency in
volatile border areas. Sherpao sees this strategy succeeding
if all sides follow up the jirgas with development work.
Boucher assured Sherpao that the U.S. government is
well-positioned to support these efforts.

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Refugees Remain a Sticking Point
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7. (C) Sherpao reiterated to Boucher that the Pakistani
government will move to close four Afghan refugee camps this
spring. He cautioned that the Afghan Jirga Commission had
asked Pakistan to leave Jalozai camp alone, fearing that
those refugees will go to Kabul, where there are not enough
jobs to handle the influx.

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Next Steps on Jirga Preparation
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8. (C) The next bilateral Jirga Commission meeting will take
place April 8-11 in Kabul. Sherpao told Boucher that
Pakistan had committed to bringing a list of proposed jirga
participants to Kabul, but he later told Ambassador that the
two sides would draw up nomination lists after the April
meeting.


9. (C) Sherpao could not give Boucher a definite timeline for
when the jirga would take place. He said the jirga
commissions agreed "they should hurry it up", but his tone
was non-committal. In a separate meeting, Ambassador urged
Sherpao to work expeditiously in order to maximize the
jirga's impact against the Taliban, acknowledging that the
process is complex and time-consuming.


10. (U) SCA Senior Advisor Caitlin Hayden cleared this cable.


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