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07GEORGETOWN283
2007-03-16 20:35:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Georgetown
Cable title:  

JAGDEO ON HUMAN RIGHTS, DRUGS AND VENEZUELA

Tags:  PREL PGOV PHUM ECON PBTS KCRM VE GY 
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SUBJECT: JAGDEO ON HUMAN RIGHTS, DRUGS AND VENEZUELA

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Classified By: Ambassador David M. Robinson for reasons 1.5(d)


1. (C) Summary: The Ambassador met with President Bharrat
Jagdeo in his office and at his request on March 15 to
discuss the INCSR and Human Rights Report. Jagdeo objected
to the methodology and tone of both documents, describing
them as on-going irritants, and said he hoped to discuss
their objectivity and impact at the June Conference on the
Caribbean in Washington. The Ambassador described how the
reports were compiled and said they accurately reflected
source information. On Venezuela, Jagdeo said he questioned
the regime's long-term stability and admitted he was relieved
that Hugo Chavez was a no-show and unable to hijack the
microphone at the June 3 Rio Group Summit in Georgetown. The
President also said he will prod Chavez on the border
dispute. That is unlikely. End Summary.


2. (C) President Bharrat Jagdeo called the Ambassador and
asked for an immediate meeting to talk about the INCSR and
Human Rights Report during the early afternoon on March 15.
The President already had launched a public tirade at the
media saturated opening of the Guyana Defense Forces officers
conference about US hypocrisy when the documents were
released on March 8. Jagdeo described that earlier outburst
as more show than substance but reasserted his conviction
that both reports reflect rumor and guesswork more than hard
information, particularly regarding money laundering related
to drug trafficking. Jagdeo suggested that tax evasion and
smuggling accounted for most of the underground economy and
undocumented wealth in Guyana, including in the mildly
booming construction industry. He also noted that many of
the watchdog NGOs and other organizations contributing
information to the report consist of one-or-two people with
little background, no resources and sometimes questionable
motives.


3. (C) The Ambassador acknowledged that reliable data was

difficult to get in Guyana but noted that most of our
information came from the GOG's own ministries, branches of
the security services, and widely corroborated media reports.
He said the information was as accurate as the sources and
suggested that more transparency, especially in financial
transactions, might improve quality. He also reminded the
President that the challenges cited generally coincided with
the GOG's own laundry list of "to do" items. Jagdeo said he
would not quibble with reliable facts but still questioned
our methodology and would like to discuss report card-type
documents in general at the Conference on the Caribbean in
June.


4. (C) Turning to Venezuela, Jagdeo said he thought Hugo
Chavez's focus on the poor was admirable but that his hostile
attitude toward private investors was reckless and not
sustainable. Jagdeo added that he pared Guyana's PetroCaribe
deal to half his cabinet's original proposal because he
worried about long-term stability in Venezuela, especially if
professional managers and other highly qualified people leave
the country in frustration. Contrasting his own attitude as
investor friendly, Jagdeo said he is encouraging foreign oil
companies to begin exploring along both of Guyana's contested
borders -- with Suriname and Venezuela. In response to the
Ambassador's remark that this initiative seemed to be a shift
in policy, Jagdeo said he would encourage a Bolivarian change
of heart in Chavez by reminding him of his own public
statement that the border dispute was the result of
"imperialism." The President added that he was relieved when
Chavez failed to show at the Rio Group Summit, saving the
forum from becoming a prolonged harangue. In the same
breath, Jagdeo lamented that high-level US officials do not
come to Guyana and said he would welcome an Assistant
Secretary level visit. The Ambassador agreed that a visit

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would be useful but likely was not on the immediate horizon.
The discussion ended with a broad review of our PEPFAR and
investment support programs.


5. (C) Comment: Jagdeo has a valid point about the quality
of information on drug trafficking and money laundering.
Nobody is looking very hard at Guyana and most of the local
sources available to us are amateurish, including in the GOG.
The President stops short of denying the problems exist,
however, and credibly says he would welcome more resources
and constructive engagement. It may be useful as a
demonstration of good faith and partnership to let Jagdeo
make his points at an appropriate level in Washington during
the Caribbean Conference, but we should avoid holding out
hope of more help. It would be wasted, at least until
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security sector reform program are implemented and produce
reliable counterparts. At the moment, there are none.


6. (C) Comment continued: On Venezuela, it seems unlikely
Jagdeo will nudge Chavez about the border dispute and instead
wants the oil companies to test Venezuela's sensitivity.
While Jagdeo wants investment and sees the Rio Group Summit,
the Cricket World Cup and the upcoming Commonwealth Finance
Ministers Conference as his showcases, he does not want a
confrontation from which he will be forced to back down.

Robinson