Identifier
Created
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07DILI110
2007-03-15 02:14:00
CONFIDENTIAL//NOFORN
Embassy Dili
Cable title:  

AUSTRALIAN AND PORTUGUESE INTERESTS CONVERGE

Tags:  KPKO MOPS PGOV PREL KJUS KDEM UN TT 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 DILI 000110 

SIPDIS

NOFORN

SIPDIS
DEPT FOR EAP/MTS,IO
PACOM FOR POLAD AND JOC

E.O. 12958: DECL: 3/15/2017
TAGS: KPKO MOPS PGOV PREL KJUS KDEM UN TT
SUBJECT: AUSTRALIAN AND PORTUGUESE INTERESTS CONVERGE

REF: DILI 96

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CLASSIFIED BY: Seiji T. Shiratori, DCM, EXEC, State.
REASON: 1.4 (b),(d)



C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 DILI 000110

SIPDIS

NOFORN

SIPDIS
DEPT FOR EAP/MTS,IO
PACOM FOR POLAD AND JOC

E.O. 12958: DECL: 3/15/2017
TAGS: KPKO MOPS PGOV PREL KJUS KDEM UN TT
SUBJECT: AUSTRALIAN AND PORTUGUESE INTERESTS CONVERGE

REF: DILI 96

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CLASSIFIED BY: Seiji T. Shiratori, DCM, EXEC, State.
REASON: 1.4 (b),(d)




1. (C/NF) Summary: In separate discussions, the Portuguese and
Australian ambassadors downplayed concerns about support for
military dissident Major Alfredo Reinado in the western
districts. Their views converge on one matter, that Alfredo is
a fugitive from justice who should surrender or be captured.
The Portuguese ambassador was not at all concerned about the
logistical and regulatory preparations for upcoming elections in
East Timor but did worry about security surrounding the
elections and whether parties will accept the results. The
Australian ambassador, on the other hand, shared our concerns
and would like to join with us in presenting these to the UN and
GOET. Our bilateral interlocutors believe that while Reinado is
intelligent and thinks strategically militarily, he does not
have a clear political strategy beyond opposition to the ruling
Fretilin party. End summary.


2. (C/NF) In separate conversations with Portuguese Ambassador
Ramos Pinto and Australian Ambassador Margaret Twomey on March
14, the Charge d'Affaires (CDA) found that though the two
bilateral partners have many differing views on East Timor and
related matters, they share similar outlooks and goals with
relation to dissident military leader Alfredo Reinado. The
Australians, because of their commitment to help the GOET
maintain law and order, remain resolved that Reinado must
surrender or be captured. The Portuguese, often viewed as close
to the ruling Fretilin party and often criticized by Reinado and
his supporters, would also like nothing more than to see
Reinado's apprehension. Embassy officers also briefed
Ambassador Twomey and her staff regarding their recent trip
through the western districts and their observations that

pro-Reinado sentiment is strong in the demographically dense
western districts. We shared similar, though less detailed,
observations with the Portuguese Ambassador. Both reacted with
some concern about the level of support for Reinado but continue
to insist that the dissident must be brought to justice and that
the pro-Alfredo feelings among the populace would not
necessarily lead to an uncontrollable reaction if Reinado is
captured or killed. However, Ambassador Twomey was keenly
interested in hearing our detailed description of wider support
for Reinado in the western regions, information that she did not
appear to have heard from other sources. She also took note of
the strong Reinado support expressed to us recently by Dili
Bishop Dom Ricardo da Silva and by influential priest Father
Domingos Soares Maubere (see reftel),saying that the
Australians are unable to meet with these persons at this time.
She had met recently with opposition party leaders who had
expressed similar misgivings about the operation to apprehend
Reinado that we had heard in our conversation last week.


3. (C/NF) Both ambassadors opined that Reinado stands for little
and thinks more tactically than strategically on political
matters (though not necessarily so on military matters). They
agreed that he is most noted for what he is against ---
Fretilin. This dynamic is not new, our partners reminded, and
with or without Reinado there would be a widespread sense of
discontent with the current ruling clique in East Timor. The
outwardly anti-Fretilin Catholic Church in East Timor, like its
secular allies, is not against Fretilin for primarily
ideological or social reasons. According to the Portuguese
ambassador, this is largely just rhetoric and the real struggle
is between those in the Church and in secular institutions who
are currently in power and those who were left out of the
current structure.


4. (C/NF) Both ambassadors held little faith in the prospects
for negotiations with Reinado. They saw little to negotiate and
expressed no trust in Reinado as an honest bargainer. They
agreed that the longer Reinado remains at large and the more
attention he garners, the more problematic the situation will
become. Portuguese Ambassador Ramos Pinto added that it was a
mistake for Timorese leaders to give Reinado attention from the
beginning, since the day after he was involved in a gun fight

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with the Timorese military (F-FDTL) on April 28. This attention
has greatly magnified the influence of what Ramos Pinto
described as an incompetent and criminal former military
officer.


5. (C/NF) Ambassador Ramos Pinto was not at all concerned about
whether the upcoming presidential and parliamentary elections in
East Timor would take place as planned. Despite the outstanding
issues raised by the UN Independent Electoral Certification
team, he said the UN and GOET will be able to handle the
logistical and regulatory preparations. He said the
certification team's unaddressed detractions of the election
plan are all minor ones, such as regulations that transparent
ballot boxes be used. Somewhat defensive about criticism of
Fretilin, Ramos Pinto said whether some parties accept a
Fretilin victory is another issue but that the elections will be
fair and should be accepted by all parties. Ambassador Ramos
Pinto discounted our observation that potential voters in the
western districts do not trust Timorese police (PNTL) to
impartially provide security during the elections and that voter
registration remains low. He also said there are adequate
international security forces to keep the peace, saying that
Timorese are basically law-abiding. Ambassador Twomey, on the
other hand, immediately shared our concerns about the upcoming
elections and said she would like to join us in any
presentations of concerns we make to the UN or GOET. She said
she would prefer we go in bilaterally, rather than with other
Missions in order to maintain the focus and impact of the
message.


6. (C/NF) Ambassador Ramos Pinto also downplayed commonly heard
criticisms of Timor's justice sector, saying that the verdict in
the case of former Interior Minister Rogerio Lobato is a good
example that the system works, and for Reinado should address
his grievance about the fairness of him facing justice when
others have not.
HARSHA