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07BAGHDAD1672
2007-05-22 08:53:00
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Embassy Baghdad
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ISCI STRATEGIC DIALOGUE: SECOND POLITICAL

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P 220853Z MAY 07
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TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 1282
INFO RUCNRAQ/IRAQ COLLECTIVE
S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 BAGHDAD 001672 

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/18/2017
TAGS: PGOV PREL IZ
SUBJECT: ISCI STRATEGIC DIALOGUE: SECOND POLITICAL
COMMITTEE MEETING FOCUSES ON COALITION PRESENCE

REF: A. BAGHDAD 1604


B. BAGHDAD 1587

C. BAGHDAD 1532 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: Political Counselor Margaret Scobey for reasons 1.4 (b)
and (d).

S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 BAGHDAD 001672

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/18/2017
TAGS: PGOV PREL IZ
SUBJECT: ISCI STRATEGIC DIALOGUE: SECOND POLITICAL
COMMITTEE MEETING FOCUSES ON COALITION PRESENCE

REF: A. BAGHDAD 1604


B. BAGHDAD 1587

C. BAGHDAD 1532 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: Political Counselor Margaret Scobey for reasons 1.4 (b)
and (d).


1. (S) Summary: At the second meeting of the political
committee of the U.S.-ISCI (formerly SCIRI) strategic
dialogue, ISCI members briefly discussed their recent
conference. A discussion of a CoR petition calling for a
timetable for coalition withdrawal ensued, with PolCouns
urging ISCI leaders to use their influence to prevent a
negative outcome in the CoR. ISCI CoR members claimed that
no one from ISCI or Badr signed the petition. While agreeing
it was negative, they also stressed the need for coalition
forces to reduce "provocations" against Iraqi citizens,
including unwarranted detentions. Constitutional Review
Committee chairman Humam Hamoudi also called for U.S. help in
convincing Kurdish leaders to accept compromises on Kirkuk
and the division of authority between the regions and the
central government. End summary.


2. (S) The meeting took place on May 15. The ISCI
participants were Vice President Adel Abdel Mehdi (chair);
CoR members Sheikh Humam Hamoudi, Sheikh Jalal al-Din
al-Sagheer, and Ridha Jawad Taqi; and advisor Mohammed Hadi
al-Asadi. The U.S. side consisted of PolCouns (chair),
Embassy Legal Advisor, Regional Affairs Officer, and PolOff.
The committee chairs agreed at the end of the meeting that
each side would present ideas for topics before the next
session.

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ISCI Conference
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3. (S) The meeting began with Abdel Mehdi turning the floor
to al-Asadi for a summary of the results of ISCI's recent
conference (ref B). Asked by PolCouns if ISCI's
post-conference statement indicated a turn from Khomenei to
Sistani as the leading religious authority, Hamoudi replied,
"We need to respect the highest religious authorities in
Iraq, and Sistani now represents that authority. If the high
authorities have a position, we must follow that position.
If not, ISCI will take its own position." Abdel Mehdi then
reiterated the general principles ISCI observed, reading off

a paper he gave post at the beginning of the dialogue in
November. PolCouns said that the U.S. generally subscribed
to the same principles and wanted to see a long term
relationship develop based on those principles. "We
appreciate your evolution from a resistance organization to a
leading political party," she continued, "and while we
respect the religious basis of your identity what is
important to us is your political vision."

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CoR Petition on MNF-I Withdrawal
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4. (S) Invited by Abdel Mehdi to turn to an issue at hand,
PolCouns raised the petition circulating in the CoR calling
for a timetable for coalition withdrawal (ref A). She noted
that the CoR could send a very negative message to those
engaged in the U.S. in the debate on Iraq if it passed a
resolution demanding a timetable for coalition withdrawal.
Could ISCI, she asked, use its influence to manage this issue
in the CoR so that it does not harm our shared interests.
Since it appears that the Sadrists will continue their
efforts to push such a measure through the CoR, she
continued, perhaps with ISCI leadership a measure could be
passed that mirrored the GOI position that coalition
withdrawal would occur as ISF increased their capabilities.


5. (S) Al-Saghir adamantly denied that any ISCI or Badr
members signed the petition. Yet he noted that there was a
growing feeling in the CoR that it should become involved in
the question of the presence of coalition forces, and he
claimed that "the provocations" of coalition forces were
causing heightened sensitivity. "We need your help in
reducing the feeling on the street that many detentions are
not justified," al-Saghir continued. Abdel Mehdi noted
ISCI's position, as expressed in its recent platform (ref B),
that the presence of the coalition forces was temporary and
that the training of Iraqi security forces needed to be
accelerated. He said it would take further work with other
groups in the CoR to develop the correct perspective on the
issues raised by the petition. Taqi observed that many Shi'a
CoR members had the perception that Iraqi leaders did not
control the security file. PolCouns replied that the
security file was in a process of transition, with Iraqi
forces assuming greater responsibility every day.

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Constitutional Review Update
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6. (C) Hamoudi closed with a brief read-out of the status of
constitutional review. He said that committee leaders had
agreed on several measures to strengthen the authority of the
central government in the areas of water, ports, customs, and
oil. There was also a suggestion that Kirkuk be given
special status as its own region for five years, during which
time the borders would be defined and after which time its
citizens could choose whether to join another region (e.g.,
Kurdistan). Hamoudi noted that both of these issues (Kirkuk
and strengthening central government authorities) would be
sensitive for the Kurds, especially for Masoud Barzani. He
called for Embassy help in convincing Barzani to accept these
modifications. Calling the committee's suggestions
encouraging, PolCouns said that the Embassy would work to
support compromise suggestions as long as there was clarity
over the content of the proposals.
CROCKER