Identifier
Created
Classification
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07ANKARA2817
2007-11-23 12:19:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Ankara
Cable title:  

CFE/ISTANBUL: TURKEY SHARES OUR SKEPTICISM ABOUT

Tags:  PREL RS NATO OSCE KCFE TU 
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TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 4427
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RUEHVEN/USMISSION USOSCE PRIORITY 0787
C O N F I D E N T I A L ANKARA 002817 

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SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/23/2017
TAGS: PREL RS NATO OSCE KCFE TU
SUBJECT: CFE/ISTANBUL: TURKEY SHARES OUR SKEPTICISM ABOUT
GERMAN/SPANISH PROPOSAL FOR MADRID MEETING

REF: A. STATE 158847


B. LOOK/LAURENDEAU-SIEBENTRITT E-MAILS

Classified By: Pol-Mil Counselor Carl Siebentritt for reasons
1.4 (b,d).

C O N F I D E N T I A L ANKARA 002817

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/23/2017
TAGS: PREL RS NATO OSCE KCFE TU
SUBJECT: CFE/ISTANBUL: TURKEY SHARES OUR SKEPTICISM ABOUT
GERMAN/SPANISH PROPOSAL FOR MADRID MEETING

REF: A. STATE 158847


B. LOOK/LAURENDEAU-SIEBENTRITT E-MAILS

Classified By: Pol-Mil Counselor Carl Siebentritt for reasons
1.4 (b,d).


1. (C) We shared ref a points with MFA Arms Control and
Disarmament Deputy Director General Ahmet Gun on November 21.
Gun was grateful to have our views in advance of the arrival
of the German and Spanish ambassadors, who met with Deputy
Undersecretary Rafet Akgunay later that day to push the
German/Spanish proposal for a meeting at 30 in Madrid prior
to the OSCE Ministerial. Gun reported that Akgunay expressed
Turkey's strong skepticism to the ambassadors, stressing that
Turkey would not seek to block a meeting at 30 but saw many
risks with such a gathering and would prefer a NATO-only
meeting beforehand. He told them that Turkey would not
welcome a repeat of the embarrassment experienced at the
Paris seminar and that disagreement over CFE should not be
allowed to cast a shadow over the OSCE Ministerial.


2. (C) Gun said he hoped the German and Spanish ambassadors
had heard the message. The MFA will continue to engage other
allies and will be prepared to reiterate its position at the
November 26 HLTF deputies meeting. He requested further
details on what position the U.S. plans to take with Germany.


3. (C) A German embassy contact here confirmed that the Turks
had taken a skeptical stance and requested a NATO-only
meeting before any meeting at 30. He said the German embassy
had immediately reported the Turkish position to Berlin and
acknowledged that other NATO Allies have voiced similar
concerns.


4. (C) We also raised with Gun Russian press reports claiming
that the Turkish General Staff (TGS) told Russian
counterparts that the TGS is not overly concerned with the
flank regime or Russian withdrawal from CFE. Gun said such
reports were a distortion and that the GOT's insistence on
retaining flank limitations remains as before. A TGS general
officer familiar with the issue confirmed that the Russian
press reports were inaccurate. However, both suggested that
neither MFA nor TGS were inclined to issue a public
clarification of the Turkish position at this time.

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WILSON