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06YEREVAN1388
2006-10-05 12:38:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Yerevan
Cable title:  

GUAM ALLIES GANG UP ON RUSSIA DURING THINKTANK

Tags:  PREL PGOV UK GG RU AZ AM 
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Classified By: Poloff Masha Herbst for reasons 1.4 (b, d).

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Classified By: Poloff Masha Herbst for reasons 1.4 (b, d).

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SUMMARY
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1. (U) A Russian analyst who spouted anti-Western rhetoric at
a local thinktank seminar this week in Yerevan found himself
outnumbered when panelists from Georgia (including a former
foreign minister),Ukraine and Azerbaijan ganged up on him
during their speeches and particularly during the
question-and-answer period. The analyst had complained that
Russia was being "forced out" of its traditional "sphere of
influence." He also cautioned the South Caucasus countries
against greater involvement with NATO, and said that the U.S.
is unequivocally hostile to Russia. Though the Georgians and
the Russian traded barbs during the seminar, the September 27
arrest of GRU officers did not come up. An Azeri panelist
took a dim view of the current Nagorno Karabakh negotiation
efforts and suggested the road to peace led through Europe.
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RUSSIAN ANALYST: THE WEST IS A THREAT
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2. (U) Vyacheslav Igrunov, the director of the Institute for
Humanities and Political Studies in Moscow, wasted no time in
disabusing seminar participants of the notion that Russia
could be a team player in the South Caucasus. He said that,
while the idea that Russia, Turkey, the U.S. and the EU could
work together in the region was a pleasant one, "in reality,
it is unfortunately quite different." Igrunov said the U.S.
obviously considered Russia an enemy. He accused the U.S. of
trying to force Russia out of the former Soviet space. "The
proof is Vice President Cheney's statement in Vilnius, which
categorized Russia with Syria and Iran. No further proof is
needed," Igrunov said. He accused the U.S. of orchestrating
and paying for the Orange and Rose Revolutions. Igrunov then
launched into a diatribe about the war in Iraq, predicting
that Iraq would become a "terrorism greenhouse," and saying
the "Muslim world won't forgive the U.S. if the U.S. will not

learn lessons from Iraq ... and goes to war in Iran."


3. (U) Though he avoided saying outright that the countries
of the South Caucasus should not join NATO, Igrunov tried to
build a strong case against NATO involvement in the region.
He said NATO action in the South Caucasus might be
"irreversible," and suggested that Georgia would be used as a
launching site for war in Iran. He said Russia feared NATO
would turn against it. Throughout Igrunov's speech,
panelists from Georgia and Ukraine rolled their eyes at one
another and whispered.

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FORMER GEORGIAN FM: THE WEST SHOULD BE MORE ACTIVE HERE
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4. (U) Former Georgian Foreign Minister Irakli Menagarishvili
spoke next, giving a measured presentation during which he
argued that the West must become more involved in regional
politics. He said the EU and NATO should "continuously" keep
the South Caucasus on their radars, but also stressed that
all stakeholders should be involved -- including Russia. He
looked and sounded a bit like a school teacher -- perhaps on
purpose, and the better to follow Igrunov's whiny tirade --
when he peered over his glasses at the audience and said,
"I'm sure Russia can and should play a constructive, positive
role." Menagarishvili refrained from provoking Igrunov until
right before the end of his presentation, when he noted
pointedly that the concept of spheres of influence was
outdated and should be abandoned.

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AZERI SCHOLAR: NK TALKS WILL FAIL WITHOUT EU INTEGRATION
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5. (C) Leila Alieva, head of the Azeri Center for National
and International Studies, took a dim view of the current NK
settlement process. She said domestic reform in both Armenia
and Azerbaijan was a prerequisite for peace. "The resolution
attempts are predetermined to fail, because when you have two
parties equally convinced of the correctness of their views,
and both parties can bring equal evidence, this is a
deadlock," Alieva said. She said the EU should promote
reform in Armenia and Azerbaijan and "bring them closer to
Europe." Alieva also chastised Russia for its heavy hand in
the region, and said it should wait to act until it can offer
a better alternative to Western integration and development.
(NOTE: Alieva has worked with the Spectrum Center in the

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past, but her presence at the seminar was still remarkable.
Spectrum Center Director Gayane Novikova said the
organization had worked out an agreement by which border
guards would not stamp Alieva's passport, and that the Center
had provided her with a security detail. END NOTE.)

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PANELISTS GANG UP ON THE RUSSIAN
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6. (U) Almost all the questions posed during the
question-and-answer period were for Igrunov. Ukrainian
panelist Mykhailo Samas cited Russia's December 2005 gas
shutdown, and said, "Who is forcing Russia from Ukraine and
Georgia, if not Russia itself?" Other panelists piled on to
the same question. Shalva Pichkhadze, chairman of "Georgia
for NATO" and a former advisor to Eduard Shevardnadze, asked
what, exactly, Russia would consider to be "fair play."
Igrunov ignored the last question. He said the U.S. had
coerced Ukraine not to join the Unified Economic Space by
threatening isolation from the West, and accused Washington
and Brussels of pressuring Moldova to back away from Russia's
federalization plan the day after the Moldovan government
agreed to it. Igrunov then turned his attention to GUAM,
complaining that "The alliance was forged without inviting
Russia. Authoritarian regimes were invited. It was a double
standard."

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COMMENT
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7. (C) The attitude of the panelists towards each other was a
small-scale reflection of large-scale reality. Ukraine and
Georgia vocally contradicted Russia's claims, Azerbaijan
threw in a barb here and there, and Armenia was silent. The
question is: How much longer will Armenia be silent?
Armenian suffering is a continuing side effect of tension
between Russia and Georgia, and the tension is only
increasing. But given Russian dominance of the Armenian
energy sector, growing economic ties between the two
countries and Russian troops guarding Armenia's southern
border, speaking out against Russia remains a risky
proposition.
GODFREY