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06VIENTIANE396
2006-05-02 09:16:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Vientiane
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LAO GOVERNMENT REPORT ON INTERVIEW WITH 22 HMONG

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 VIENTIANE 000396 

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/MLS, DRL/IRF, PRM

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/02/2016
TAGS: PINS PHUM PREF PREL KIRF TH LA
SUBJECT: LAO GOVERNMENT REPORT ON INTERVIEW WITH 22 HMONG
DEPORTEES SHOWS A RELIGIOUS ANGLE

REF: VIENTIANE 321 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: Ambassador Patricia M. Haslach, reason 1.4 (b) and (d).

Summary
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 VIENTIANE 000396

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/MLS, DRL/IRF, PRM

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/02/2016
TAGS: PINS PHUM PREF PREL KIRF TH LA
SUBJECT: LAO GOVERNMENT REPORT ON INTERVIEW WITH 22 HMONG
DEPORTEES SHOWS A RELIGIOUS ANGLE

REF: VIENTIANE 321 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: Ambassador Patricia M. Haslach, reason 1.4 (b) and (d).

Summary
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1. (C) Embassy has come by a copy of a Lao government report
on the interrogation of 22 female members of the group of 27
Hmong deported from Thailand in December. Because of its
style and content, we believe the document to be authentic.
The hand-written report provides brief biographical
background on the 22 and then analyzes events leading to
their entry into Laos. Compiled by police in Bolikhamsai
province, where the group was first detained by Lao
authorities, the document discloses GoL paranoia about the
22, seeing their Christian religion and their receipt of aid
from foreign organizations as signals that they were perhaps
agents provocateur sent to create problems. It establishes
credibly that the Lao have the children in detention, have
known about them all along, and see them as a security
threat, as we have surmised. It also reveals a previously
unknown religious element to their arrest and detention,
further complicating the case. We have provided a copy of the
report to Embassy Bangkok. Besides offering a revealing
insight into GoL thinking, it may be helpful in establishing
the GoL's complete lack of candor on its detention of the
group. End summary.

Contents of report
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2. (C) The photocopied report was passed to us by a Hmong
contact in Laos, who in turn had obtained it from other
Hmong. Our contact said it came from sympathetic Hmong in the
Bolikhamsai government. Titled "Report on the investigation
of the 22 Hmong people who entered Laos from Thailand," it
states that it is the result of the investigation made by
Bolikhamsai provincial police assigned since December 12,
2005 to looking into the case of the 22 Hmong females. It
begins with a lengthy section detailing the names, ages,
names of parents and siblings, places of birth and residence,

dates of entry to Thailand from Laos, religion and ethnicity
of each of the 22 female members of the group of 27 Hmong
deported to Laos from Thailand on December 5. The
information contained is consistent with that provide by
other sources regarding the group.


3. (C) The second part of the document is entitled the
"activities" section, and details the movement of the girls
from the time they fled to Thailand. From this point the
document is quoted as translated:

"Activities section

Since 2004, the group received news from Radio Free Asia that
there was a plan to take in Hmong who had fled Laos from Tham
Krabok, Khet Noy in Tak province and Houay Nam Khao in
Petchaboon province (Thailand) in order to establish a place
for political refugees from the U.S. This caused the Hmong in
many areas to flee from Laos to reside in Thailand. When they
arrived in Thailand, the group engaged in the following
activities:
-- Studied Thai and English from an American teacher.
-- Every Saturday and Sunday they listened to religious
proselytizing from America.
-- They received assistance, including a quantity of
materials such as tools and food, which was direct assistance
from America that was turned over to the Thai to distribute.
-- In their free time, they engaged in itinerant work to make
some money, along with Thai Hmong from the provinces. They
also visited relatives. But every Saturday and Sunday, they
had to return to listen to the religious proselytizing.
-- Sometimes Thai Hmong relatives came to pick them up to
visit, or they went on vacation with other Hmong who shared
their religion. They went to help build Hmong villages in Tak
province, which was divided into meeting areas called "Ban
1," "Ban 2," up to 39, which they claimed were areas
designated for the Hmong to live.

In summary, the 27 Hmong, 22 of whom were females, were at
Nam Khao center. 25 persons were at Ban Khem Noy and one
person left to travel. Whether visiting relatives or doing
itinerant work, each time they went together.

Observation and evaluation:

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1. The aforementioned Hmong individuals may have been given
education and training, indoctrinated, given funds and were
led along a path.


2. They have gone back and forth many times already and have
been subjected to propaganda from relatives abroad. They were
encouraged to develop a list of people for interview to go to
America.


3. When the aforementioned individuals arrived at Nam Khao
(Petchaboon province, Thailand),they may have received
training and documents that are counter to Lao PDR policy,
which is revealed by the fact that these Hmong received money
to study Thai, English, the origins of the Christian religion
and the characteristics of the religion as it pertains to
their ethnic group. To help spread the religion, when there
were sick or injured people who had no resources for
treatment, that family would have to join the Christian
church or they would not receive assistance.

When they were detained at Khao Kho in Petchaboon province on
November 28, 2005 to December 5, 2005, there were many Hmong
held together who cried loudly. The Thai police asked them
why they were crying. The Thai police gave Christian bibles
to them, and told them that if they read about Jesus they
would receive blessings.


4. The aforementioned may have received training and been
given the assignment to work in the Lao PDR, and to establish
themselves in small groups of friends. Those Hmong all denied
any knowledge of Houay Nam Khao, all said their parents were
deceased, did not reveal their home village or relatives'
names, and claimed they could not speak Lao and did not know
how to respond.

In carrying out Step 2 investigation, we were able to gather
external evidence plus discrepancies in the Hmong testimony,
which indicates that there was one Thai Hmong in the group:
Parents living in Thailand -- 14 individuals
Parents deceased - 2 individuals
Parents in Laos - 5 individuals


5. The aforementioned may have been tasked by the refugees in
Thailand to come to Laos and work for a short period. This
was evidenced by the fact that they had only the clothes they
wore, and no funds, and they all had the same kind of
clothes.

Based on their testimony, they said that (Thai) officials
accused them of being Lao who entered the country illegally.
But when relatives came to post bond for them in Thailand,
none of them went back to Nam Khao center.
As for Ms. Cha Thao, she is a Thai Hmong from Ban Nam Chua,
Amphoe Khao Kho, Petchaboon province. Many of them tried to
cover that up by saying she was a Lao Hmong, born in Ban
Nonhai, Muang Feuang, Vientiane province.
After investigation by officials, Ms. Cha Thao admitted she
was in fact a Thai Hmong, from Ban Nam Choua, Amphoe Khao
Kho, but when Thai officials arrested them and an aunt of
this person came to post bail for her, she refused to go
home, and said she would go with her friends.
Based on testimony by Ms. Pakou Vang (Mai Vang),she knows
many places, including temples, churches in various
provinces, starting in Vientiane. She admitted knowing about
Mr. Somphon, who went to study in Australia and came back to
Laos to be a priest at Ban Kengsadok, Paksan district,
Bolikhamsai province. Many times Ms. Pakou Vang told
officials that if she was released she would get them money.
If they wanted 200,000 baht, she could get it in one day in
Vientiane. If they wanted 100,000 US dollars, it would take
seven days to obtain.


6. Based on the reality at present, there is an American who
is searching for these Hmong in Bolikhamsai. This is the
fifth time. And Radio Free Asia has announced that 27 Hmong
crossed from Thailand, including 22 females, and is asking
where the Lao officials have taken them.

Solution:
- Based on the evidence obtained from the investigation, note
that it is proper and passed the review of the experts.
Besides, there are still some elements that should be the
subject of continued investigation. Therefore, our experts

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believe the solution is as follows:

Propose to higher levels that they research and resolve as
quickly as possible

1. Research the option to push them to return to their
country.

2. Research the option for long-term reeducation.

3. Research the option for the Thai Hmong who have parents in
Thailand and separate the Hmong who have parents in Laos for
reeducation.

4. Reeducate them in Bolikhamsai.

5. Send them to the Ministry.

Experts recommendation:

1. Have higher levels provide additional guidance.

2. Propose sending them to the Ministry of Public Security.

3. Propose or request funds for subsistence.

(Dated) Paksane, January 19, 2006
Provincial police command
(signed)
Khammanh Saithavisoiuk

Investigation committee
(signed)
Phouvong"

Comment
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4. (C) As crude as it is, this document is consistent in
style with other provincial reports we have seen. The
information it contains is also consistent with what we know
of the 22 females deported from Thailand. Finally, details of
the interrogation match information provided us in January by
a Lao government official familiar with the arrest and
detention of the group. We conclude that the document is
indeed a copy of the official Bolikhamsai province report of
the interrogation of the 22 females.


5. (C) The Lao government's paranoia about the children is
manifest throughout the document. What we found surprising
was the extent to which the children's religious beliefs
raised red flags for officials in Bolikhamsai, a province
that in recent years has been responsible for a litany of
serious cases of religious intolerance. The religious element
to Lao suspicions is something we had not previously given
much weight to, but it now appears Lao authorities may have
genuinely feared that the children were sent here to sow
dissent through proselytizing activities.


6. (C) We have passed a copy of the document to Embassy
Bangkok. It may be useful to pass a copy to UNHCR in Bangkok,
and eventually Thai authorities as well. At the least, it
should put to rest any doubts the Thai might have that the
Lao have not known all along where the children were. End
comment.
HASLACH