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06THEHAGUE528
2006-03-10 16:20:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy The Hague
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SCENESETTER FOR WHA PDAS SHAPIRO'S VISIT TO THE

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DEPT FOR WHA/FO (C. SHAPIRO)

E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/09/2011
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR VE NT NL
SUBJECT: SCENESETTER FOR WHA PDAS SHAPIRO'S VISIT TO THE
NETHERLANDS

REF: A) STATE 37476 B) 05 THE HAGUE 1556

Classified By: Political Officer Ted Burkhalter; reasons 1.4 (b) and (d
).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 THE HAGUE 000528

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DEPT FOR WHA/FO (C. SHAPIRO)

E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/09/2011
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR VE NT NL
SUBJECT: SCENESETTER FOR WHA PDAS SHAPIRO'S VISIT TO THE
NETHERLANDS

REF: A) STATE 37476 B) 05 THE HAGUE 1556

Classified By: Political Officer Ted Burkhalter; reasons 1.4 (b) and (d
).


1. (C) Summary: Your visit comes at a time when GONL concern
about Venezuela is growing. You could use this opportunity
to press the Dutch to actively campaign against Venezuela's
UNSC bid, and to help ensure a stronger EU response toward
Venezuelan human rights and weapons procurement activities.
On Colombia, the Dutch have been helpful and are considering
future Dutch security sector reform activity. Be prepared to
discuss Venezuela, Colombia, and regional issues, including
recent and upcoming elections. End summary.

Netherlands Antilles and Aruba
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2. (U) You will meet with Kingdom Affairs Director, of the
Ministry of Interior, Drs. van Craiikamp. She will discuss
the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba, which constitute the
primary Dutch national interests in the Caribeean and South
America. Their combined population of 290,000 has strong
cultural and family ties to Venezuela. However, as
demonstrated in the January Antillean elections, where
pro-Chavez parties did extremely poorly, there is very little
political interest in closer ties to Venezuela.


3. (U) The Netherlands Antilles entered inter-Kingdom
discussions in November 2005 on constitutional reforms. The
talks should conclude sometime in 2007 or 2008. Popular
expectations in the islands are that they will result in
increased autonomy similar to that of Aruba. The Dutch would
like to see immigration and repatriation addressed.
Delinquent Antillean youth living in The Netherlands have
created crime problems in major cities like Rotterdam, and
laws have already been passed facilitating the expulsion of
unemployed or out-of-school youth. The Dutch parliament has
become concerned about the administration of finances and the
justice system in the Netherlands Antilles and is pressing
for increased control.


4. (C) In Aruba, the Dutch are concerned about lax

administration of customs and immigration. Interior Minister
Pechtold visited earlier this year and privately informed
local officials that, if procedures were not tightened up,
the Dutch government might exercise its prerogative to
intercede.

Venezuela and the Islands
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5. (C) The GONL is concerned about Chavez's intentions toward
the islands. The MFA tends to prefer engagement, in order
not to provoke Chavez. The military, including Defense
Minister Kamp, take a harder line. Kamp told parliament on
March 9 that Chavez "casts big eyes on the morsels along the
coast of Venezuela that form part of the Kingdom of the
Netherlands."

Military Exercises
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6. (C) The Ministry of Defense, after substantial GONL
review, was allowed to ramp up its Caribbean Lion exercise,
which now includes an amphibious landing with three U.S.
warships. Likewise, the Dutch, after lengthy hand-wringing,
agreed to allow the aircraft carrier USS George Washington to
make a port call in St. Maarten, following our Partnership of
the Americas exercises. Although we would have preferred a
carrier port call to Curacao, we see this as a positive step.
Smaller ships will visit Aruba and Curacao.


7. (C) We have invited Dutch F-16s to participate in the
Partnership of the Americas exercises but have not received a
response. You might also raise the Antilles and Aruba SOFA,
stressing that we are ready to move forward on a long-term
agreement.


8. (C) The GONL shares our concern regarding Venezuela's
growing ties with both Iran and Cuba, and they are concerned
about the GOV's departure from democratic and human rights
norms. The GONL does not want to see Venezuela obtain a UN
Security Council seat, and you might ask them to play a
stronger role in convincing other European countries to
oppose the Venezuelan bid.


9. (C) The GONL opposes submarine sales to Venezuela but does

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not believe that the GOV is at this time making a serious
procurement effort. The Dutch would be concerned by a
serious procurement effort, and they have assured us that
they would then be willing to press the issue vigorously
within the EU. The GONL does not share our concern about
small arms purchases to the Venezuelans, so you may wish to
stress the destabilizing aspects of small arms sales to date.

Colombia
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10. (C) The GONL has warm relations with Colombia and
respects President Uribe. The MFA's new Security Sector
Reform task force is exploring possibilities for eventual SSR
projects there. Keeping in mind that Dutch SSR resources are
currently focused on Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan and parts of
the Balkans, you may want to at least welcome the interest in
Colombia. The Dutch have just agreed to fund a $77,000
shortfall for the completion of the UN Office of Drug Control
Policy's coca production survey in Colombia.

Regional Issues
--------------


11. (C) Regionally, the Dutch are likely to raise Cuba,
particularly ways in which the Dutch can assist in keeping
open the channels of communication. On Bolivia, Foreign
Minister Bot had a good meeting in January with Evo Morales.
The two discussed at length the possibilities for Dutch
technical assistance in natural gas exploration and
exploitation. Bot stressed to Morales the importance of not
imitating Chavez's anti-Americanism. Morales, according to
the MFA, came off as "potentially" reasonable and
level-headed. Finally, the Dutch will want to discuss recent
and upcoming Latin American elections.


12. (C) The MFA does not intend to raise Guantanamo, but you
should be prepared. Bot has parlayed much parliamentary
criticism, by assuring PMs that he raises this issue with us
at every opportunity. His subordinates have also
consistently mentioned it to USG visitors and embassy
officers.
ARNALL