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06TELAVIV498
2006-02-03 06:26:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Tel Aviv
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ISRAELI MKS DISCUSS HOW TO DEAL WITH HAMAS

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 000498 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/30/2016
TAGS: PREL PTER KPAL KWBG IS ISRAELI PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS GOI EXTERNAL
SUBJECT: ISRAELI MKS DISCUSS HOW TO DEAL WITH HAMAS

Classified By: Ambassador Richard H. Jones; Reasons 1.4 (B) and (D).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 000498

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/30/2016
TAGS: PREL PTER KPAL KWBG IS ISRAELI PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS GOI EXTERNAL
SUBJECT: ISRAELI MKS DISCUSS HOW TO DEAL WITH HAMAS

Classified By: Ambassador Richard H. Jones; Reasons 1.4 (B) and (D).


1. (C) Summary and comment: During a January 30 lunch with
the Ambassador, members of the Knesset representing Kadima,
Likud, and Labor disagreed on the underlying reasons for the
success of Hamas in the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC)
elections. Likud members blamed disengagement, while the
others focused on internal Palestinian factors. The Israelis
were in agreement that there can be no negotiations with
Hamas at the present time, but the Kadima and Labor members
indicated that a change in Hamas' position could result in
dialogue. The Israeli lawmakers requested that the
international community "isolate" any Palestinian Authority
(PA) government controlled by Hamas. They agreed that the
PLC victory is a setback for Middle East peace, but
acknowledged that it also reinforces that Israel and its
moderate Arab neighbors have a shared interest in fighting
extremism. While the Knesset members' views represent only
individual voices in Israel's famous cacophony of political
discourse, they provide an important snapshot of the current
internal debate on Hamas and are a clear indication of
campaign themes that the three main parties will use in the
March 28 Knesset election. End summary and comment.

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Israeli Politicians Ponder PLC Outcome
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2. (C) Likud MK Uzi Landau -- a long-standing disengagement
foe whose rebellion against Prime Minister Sharon presaged
the party's split -- claimed that the PLC elections show that
Palestinian society believes that "terror pays" and can
achieve their objectives. Minister without Portfolio Tzachi
Hanegbi (Kadima) contested this view, saying that
Palestinians realize that terror has been unsuccessful in
paralyzing Israeli society. "We won this war," he added,
"that is a fact." Elie Rekhess, a Labor Party advisor, also
took issue with Landau's conclusions, claiming that
socio-economic and anti-corruption issues -- not just terror
-- helped Hamas gain much of its support. Labor MK Matan
Vilna'i agreed, saying that his time as the IDF commander in

Gaza had taught him "the moment there was no hope, Hamas
became strong; when people had hope, Hamas weakened." Landau
blamed much of the hatred for Israel on the Palestinian
educational system, saying it had failed to adjust after
Oslo. Druze MK Majallie Whbee (Kadima) agreed that the PA
needs to reform the view of Israel it teaches in schools.


3. (C) Hanegbi cautioned that the GOI would react forcefully
to any resumption of terrorism by Hamas, even if this
required Israeli forces to reenter the Gaza Strip. He
predicted, however, that Hamas would not resume its attacks,
because the group now has something -- political power in the
PA -- to lose. Vilna'i expressed similar views, even
suggesting that the Hamas victory might represent an
opportunity for Israel.


4. (C) The Ambassador asked the group whether support for
Hamas would decrease if it proved unable to improve
Palestinian lives over the next year. All of the Israelis
thought this would be the case. Hanegbi expressed hope that
Fatah would remain outside of government as an alternative.
He said that younger (non-Hamas) Palestinians might then have
a better chance of assuming leadership roles. Landau
suggested that the international community help build support
for pragmatic leaders on the local and regional levels.
Vilna'i advocated GOI discussions with Palestinians "on the
streets" and not just with their leaders.

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Should Israel Speak with Hamas?
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5. (C) The Israelis were in agreement that there could be no
negotiations with Hamas at the present time. Landau called
it a "fallacy" to believe that dialogue would moderate Hamas.
Hanegbi acknowledged the difficulty in predicting Hamas's
behavior, but noted that Israel had in the past decades
witnessed previously unthinkable improvements in relations
with Jordan, Egypt, and the PLO. Vilna'i took the argument
to the next step, implying that Israel would deal with Hamas
if the group changes. The Ambassador reiterated that the USG
has not changed its position on Hamas.


6. (C) In response to a question by PAO on what could be done
to foster a transformation within Hamas, Hanegbi urged the
international community to isolate the PA. He admitted that
this step might entail increased hardship for Palestinians --
a situation that he said everyone wants to avoid -- but
maintained that it is the "only way to influence Hamas."
Landau argued that Hamas must be "delegitimized and
outlawed," and called any written agreement with the
Palestinians "useless." Allowing Hamas to participate in the
regional and then PLC elections had been a "mistake," he
said. Vilna'i countered that Landau's strategy would only
strengthen Hamas.

7. (C) Rekhess and Vilna'i expressed concern that Iran might
become the PA's main source of funding if the international
community chooses to withhold assistance. Hanegbi countered
that while Israel cannot block all Iranian funding for terror
activities, it is "not physically possible" for Iran to
transfer significantly larger amounts without the GOI being
able to intercede.

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Hamas' Victory a Setback for Middle East Peace?
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8. (C) The DCM asked whether Israelis interpret the PLC vote
as a vote against Middle East peace. Hanegbi acknowledged
that the PLC elections are a setback to peace because they
give "a terror group a veto." He blamed Abbas for failing to
confront Hamas when he had the opportunity and means at his
disposal. This failure, said Hanegbi, made it impossible to
implement the first phase of the roadmap. He added that the
onus for movement on peace is now on the PA, a sentiment that
was supported by the other Knesset members present. The
Ambassador suggested that the results of the PLC election
reinforce the message that Israel and its moderate Arab
neighbors have a shared interest in fighting extremism.
Vilna'i, Hanegbi, Whbee, and even Landau agreed.

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