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06STOCKHOLM1924
2006-12-11 14:09:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Stockholm
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IRAQI AMBASSADOR TO SWEDEN CALLS ON AMBASSADOR WOOD

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Classified By: AMBASSADOR MICHAEL WOOD, FOR REASON 1.5 (b) and (d)

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Classified By: AMBASSADOR MICHAEL WOOD, FOR REASON 1.5 (b) and (d)


1. (C) Summary: The Iraqi Ambassador to Sweden, Ahmad Bamarni,
visited Ambassador Wood and DCM on December 11 and provided a
frank reaction to the Baker/Hamilton report, personal views
on the interests of Iran and Syria in Iraq, comments on the
sectarian violence, the role of U.S. forces, and the sharing
of oil revenues. Ambassador Bamarni described President
Bush as a man of conviction and of his word, and looked
forward to upcoming address on 18 December on Iraq policy.
Ambassador Bamarni is a close associate and former fellow
comrade-in-arms of President Talabani and had recently
returned from Paris where he had accompanied Talabani during
the latter,s visit to France. Bamarni also speaks well and
knowledgably about Al-Hakim. End summary.


2. (C) Regarding the local Iraqi expatriate reaction to the
sentencing in the Saddam trial, Bamarni said that most people
in his community were happy with the sentence. He observed
that this was the verdict and sentence for the murder of 148
people and that the next case coming up was for the deaths of
thousands of Kurds, a trial he looks forward to Saddam facing
(Bamarni is a Kurd). Barmani reminded us that under the
Iraqi constitution the death penalty is not to be applied to
persons 70 years old and above. Saddam turns 70 in April.

Reaction to Baker/Hamilton Report
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3. (C) Bamarni said that most Iraqis he knows do not like the
report. He notes that President Bush is reviewing further
information, and Ambassador Wood referred to the President,s
upcoming speech on Iraq on 18 December. Bamarni said he was
troubled by the report,s focus on a "global" Middle East
Resolution as a necessary measure to address Iraq,s internal
problems. Regarding the proposal to involve Iran and Syria
to help the internal situation in Iraq, Bamarni sees their
interests as distinct from Iraq,s (see further comments in
paragraphs 7 and 8 below). Bamarni supported the call for an

increased focus on the training of Iraqi forces and sees an
important step being the increasing devolution of
responsibility of force use and tactics from the Coalition to
the Government of Iraq. He supported the call for efforts to
promote national reconciliation but said he did not see the
Government of Iraq &accepting8 most of the other points.
Bamarni complained that the report was too Baghdad-focused
and did not adequately take into account the different (and
better) conditions in the North and the South.

Sectarian Violence
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4. (C) In response to Ambassador Wood,s question about what
should be done to address the sectarian violence, Bamarni
claimed that Al-Qaida and terrorist organizations have
successfully taken advantage of the situation. He said the
answer was for the Iraqi Army and the local people to take
the lead and cited the progress at Al-Anbar as a good example
of what he was talking about. He cited the good relations
between major families (Al-Hakim noted asa positive
influence) in Southern Iraq as a good example of how these
issues could be addressed. Concerning the Shiite community
writ large, he said &you can see the hand of the Iranians8
in their actions. He also observed that the instability in
that community is being influenced by many parties, each for
their own agenda.

What should we do with Coalition troops?
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5. (C) In light of the situation Bamarni described, the
Ambassador asked if the Coalition should withdraw its troops.
No, Bamarni said, observing further that there are no other
forces available to replace their role. He said it was only
due to the presence of U.S. and Coalition forces that Iraq,s
neighbors have not intervened. He said that if U.S. forces
withdrew, he could see Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia,
each intervening to pursue their own interests in Iraq. In
his view, the quick withdrawal of Coalition forces would
create a vacuum that would lead to a wider conflict in the
region.

Sharing of Oil Revenues - How best to do so?
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6. (C) Bamarni reminded us that under the Iraqi constitution,
revenues are supposed to be a national benefit. He said they
should go to a special national account from which they would
be shared on the basis of population and need. He disparaged
the thought of them being allocated through a governmental or
bureaucratic mechanism, but did not offer an alternative.

Iranian and Syrian Agendas - In Iraq and Elsewhere
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7. (C) Bamarni said Iran,s main agenda is to be the regional
actor and power. Iran,s first goal is to demonstrate that
nothing in the region can happen without their involvement

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and they wish to demonstrate that Iran has the power and
financial resources to underwrite their aspirations. The
second goal is to develop a nuclear weapons program to
support their regional power aspirations. Bamarni explained
that on reflection, these aims have little to do with Iraq
itself; Iraq is only interesting to the extent that it
furthers Iran's aspirations.


8. (C) Bamarni saw Syrian interests in Iraq as more modest than
Iran,s. He saw Syrian activities in Iraq as being a
facilitator of Iranian interests. He said Syria,s second
motivation to be involved in Iraq was essentially an
extension of its domestic political desire to ensure nothing
happens in Iraq that would threaten political stability
within Syria. In his view, political stability in Syria was
fragile and that beyond Iraq, Syria was obviously concerned
over the investigations of Syrian involvement in political
assassinations in Lebanon.


9. (C) Comment. A couple of observations. Bamarni,s views on
the causes of sectarian violence seemed a little facile and
meant for our audience. Of more interest were his comments
on positive examples of Shiite good governance in the south
and how the benefits of oil revenues should be allocated,
both observations that would seem to demonstrate an
understandable affinity for the Kurdish and Shiite
communities. End Comment.
WOOD