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06PARIS6498
2006-09-28 13:15:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Paris
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FRANCE OPPOSES VENEZUELA UNSC SEAT BUT RELUCTANT

Tags:  PREL VE UNSC FR MARR MASS 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L PARIS 006498 

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DEPT FOR WHA AND IO

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/01/2016
TAGS: PREL VE UNSC FR MARR MASS
SUBJECT: FRANCE OPPOSES VENEZUELA UNSC SEAT BUT RELUCTANT
TO LOBBY, OPEN IN PRINCIPLE TO ARMS SALES

REF: A. STATE 162359


B. STATE 155336

Classified By: PolMC Josiah Rosenblatt for reasons 1.4 (B & D).

FRANCE AGAINST UNSC SEAT FOR VENEZUELA, BUT RELUCTANT TO LOBBY
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C O N F I D E N T I A L PARIS 006498

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SIPDIS

DEPT FOR WHA AND IO

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/01/2016
TAGS: PREL VE UNSC FR MARR MASS
SUBJECT: FRANCE OPPOSES VENEZUELA UNSC SEAT BUT RELUCTANT
TO LOBBY, OPEN IN PRINCIPLE TO ARMS SALES

REF: A. STATE 162359


B. STATE 155336

Classified By: PolMC Josiah Rosenblatt for reasons 1.4 (B & D).

FRANCE AGAINST UNSC SEAT FOR VENEZUELA, BUT RELUCTANT TO LOBBY
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1. (C) In a September 27 meeting with poloff on other issues
(prior to reception of ref A),MFA IO PDAS-Equivalent Marc
Giacomini commented that Venezuela would do great harm to
Security Council credibility, if elected. That said,
Giacomini thought it significant that Venezuela had come up
short in its electioneering for a seat on the Human Rights
Council and he believed there may be similar slippage in
Venezuelan chances for a Security Council seat. Chavez's
embrace of Iranian President Ahmadinejad was a mistake that
would rattle moderate Arab nations, he claimed. Moreover,
Chavez's UNGA speech had been offensive. France, for its
part, was "99 per cent" certain to vote for Guatemala over
Venezuela; that decision, however, needed to be ratified at
the top levels of the French government.


2. (C) Asked if France would consider lobbying
diplomatically on behalf of Guatemala with African
governments, Giacomini, expressing discomfort, averred that
such a campaign would be highly unusual for France. Poloff
suggested France consider targeted approaches to specific
African leaders, such as Presidents Bongo in Gabon or
Sassou-Nguesso in Congo-Brazzaville. Giacomini reacted that
such French diplomatic engagement would be more appropriate
among the UN missions in New York. (Comment: Giacomini
confirmed our understanding of the opposition of the French
MFA IO bureau to Venezuelan membership on the Security
Council. He equally confirmed, however, that the IO bureau
is not calling the shots at this time on how France will
proceed, tactically or strategically.)


3. (C) In a separate September 27 meeting with MFA
DAS-equivalent for South America Michel Pinard to discuss ref
B points on arms transfers (see paras 5-6),Deputy Polcouns
asked if the French evaluation of Chavez had changed in the
wake of his disgraceful UNGA performance. Pinard responded
that Chavez had made anti-Americanism his raison d'etre,
which led Chavez to assume extreme positions and consort with
countries such as Iran. He agreed that the election of
Venezuela would negatively impact the effectiveness of the UN
Security Council. (Comment: This was the first time that
Pinard, unlike his counterparts in IO and at the presidential
palace, appeared to take as a given that France would not
support Venezuelan membership. End comment.)


4. (C) Pinard expressed pessimism that it would be possible
in the end to prevent Venezuela from winning a rotating seat
on the council. Deputy Polcouns suggested that France had a
role to play in lobbying others, particularly in Africa, to
vote against Venezuela. Pinard demurred, saying that overt
support for Guatemala could have an adverse effect on French
relations with Venezuela; it was unlikely that France would
campaign actively against Venezuela. (Comment: In our
experience, Pinard consistently overestimates Venezuela's

importance for French interests compared to his counterparts
in IO and the Presidency. End comment.) He nonetheless
conceded that, if asked, France might be prepared to make its
view known that the selection of Venezuela would be a
mistake.

ARMS SALES
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5. (C) Per ref B, Deputy Polcouns outlined U.S. policy on
the termination of all arms sales and transfers to Venezuela,
stressing that Venezuela's arms acquisition program exceeded
its needs and that the U.S. was concerned that even small
arms could end up in the hands of local terrorist groups. He
nonetheless expressed appreciation for France's decision to
refrain from submarine sales, for example.


6. (C) Pinard stated in response that, as a matter of
principle, France would not rule out arms sales entirely,
given that it had an interest in maintaining its relationship
with the Venezuelan military, mainly in the way of training
programs and sales of light arms. As on past occasions, he
rejected the assertion that Venezuelan arms purchases had the
potential of changing the regional military balance, arguing
that Venezuela posed no military threat to its neighbors. He
described the Venezuelan army as one trained to parade rather
than to fight, in contrast to its battle-hardened counterpart
in Colombia. He argued that the FARC had no interest in
acquiring arms from Venezuela since it was already
well-equipped.

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