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06MOSUL16
2006-02-16 18:10:00
CONFIDENTIAL
REO Mosul
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NINEWA JUDGES FIRE BACK AT DETRACTORS, BLAME SYSTEM FOR

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 MOSUL 000016 

SIPDIS

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 2/16/2016
TAGS: PREL PINS PGOV PHUM IZ PINT
SUBJECT: NINEWA JUDGES FIRE BACK AT DETRACTORS, BLAME SYSTEM FOR
TERRORIST PROBLEMS

CLASSIFIED BY: Cameron Munter, PRT Leader, Provincial
Reconstruction Team Ninewa, State.
REASON: 1.4 (b),(d)



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SUMMARY
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 MOSUL 000016

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 2/16/2016
TAGS: PREL PINS PGOV PHUM IZ PINT
SUBJECT: NINEWA JUDGES FIRE BACK AT DETRACTORS, BLAME SYSTEM FOR
TERRORIST PROBLEMS

CLASSIFIED BY: Cameron Munter, PRT Leader, Provincial
Reconstruction Team Ninewa, State.
REASON: 1.4 (b),(d)



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SUMMARY
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1. (C) Ninewa's judges are having difficulty with the public's
negative perception of their work. In part, they blame Iraqi
Army (IA) and Iraqi Police (IP) officials for "public
statements" made to the press that condemn the judges for faults
in the system. The judges make clear, however, that there is a
fundamental problem with the system itself. These problems,
according to Chief Judge Sadeeq, are a tough penal code that
requires very detailed and specific information to process
cases. Sadeeq said investigative information from the IA, or
lack thereof, "forces" judges to release many detainees because
of faulty evidence. To help remedy the problem Sadeeq and his
associates are calling a meeting with IA and IP officials to
discuss the issue. Sadeeq said he hopes that opening dialogue
would be the best way to correct problems and ensure the justice
system in Ninewa succeeds. End Summary.


2. (SBU) PRT Rule of Law rep and Poloff met with Ninewa Chief
Judge Faisal Sadeeq and Investigative Judge Amer Rashid Hammedi
at Mosul Courthouse on February 14.

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THE SYSTEM TO BLAME FOR CASE PROBLEMS
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3. (C) Chief Judge Sadeeq is tired of his judges taking the
blame for the low number of convictions for terrorism cases
originating in Ninewa. He said criticism by Iraqi Police (IP)
and Iraqi Army (IA) that judges are "cowardly" and routinely
"release terrorists" is unfair. Sadeeq and Investigative Judge
Hammedi blame the "system" for what they believe demonstrates a
disconnection between the investigative arm of the IP and IA and
the penal code. Sadeeq said, so far, many cases lack evidence
necessary to convict a suspect, or as is more likely, the
evidence is not collected or documented correctly by IP and IA
investigators. He said when judges do not have this specific

information they are forced to release the detainee even though
the person "might actually be a terrorist."

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COOPERATION WITH ARMY A "SERIOUS PROBLEM"
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4. (C) Hammedi said one of the main problems with hearing cases
has been due to a lack of cooperation between the Ninewa judges
and the IA 2nd Division. Hammedi said he is surprised when he
hears about "terrorists" caught by IA and IP, where large caches
of weapons are found, but that such evidence does not quite make
its way to the courts. As an example, Hammedi showed PRT Rule
of Law rep a case of a suspected terrorist who has been held
since November of last year. Hammedi said the case against the
suspect "lacked" specific information. He pointed out how the
file was missing pertinent biographic data on the detainee, as
well as the number and description of the confiscated items, and
the date, time, and location of the incident and investigation.
He complained that, in this particular case, the evidentiary
photos were photocopies or reproductions from newspapers.
Hammedi said IA investigators claimed they found a "large cache
of weapons" in the house of the suspect, but that the photo of
the evidence showed weapons sitting outside leaning against a
jersey barrier instead of the house where the weapons were
allegedly found.


5. (C) More importantly, Sadeeq and Hammedi question the
cooperation, or lack thereof, by 2nd Division Commanding General
Jamaal. Hammedi said the 2nd Division has two agents (referred
to simply as numbers "17 and 24") who conduct all investigations
for eastern Ninewa. However, these two agents are not allowed
to testify in court, according to General Jamaal. The issue has
caused consternation between the judges and the general, and has
turned into a "war of memos" where each side has blasted the
other in writing for their lack of cooperation. Sadeeq handed
PRT Rule of Law rep a copy of a letter received from Jamaal
refusing to allow his agents to testify. Hammedi said Jamaal's
insubordination is not within the law and that the court is
mulling the possibility of filing a case against the general.
According to Hammedi, however, the likelihood of such an action
is minimal since he believes it would only aggravate the
situation. Hammedi claimed 10 memos have been sent to Jamaal
reminding him of the consequences of his lack of cooperation,
but that all of the responses have been negative.

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JUDGES NOT WITHOUT FAULT -- CALL FOR MEETING
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6. (C) Sadeeq said the 2nd Division might not be the only
reason for case delays in Ninewa. He said perhaps even his own
judges are not without fault. Sadeeq said in his own assessment
of the nine investigative judges in Mosul, he noticed they tend
to work as "individuals" rather than collectively. He admitted
that in certain instances some judges could be dishonest, but
that he could not verify this without further examination.
Sadeeq said he would like to get to the root of the problem with
the IA and IP specifically, and suggested that the first step
towards correcting the issue would be to have a meeting with
their commanders. Sadeeq admitted that his "memo war" with
Jamaal cannot continue. He said the group should sit down to
discuss the legal process so that everyone is "on the same
page." Sadeeq said he believes these discussions would also
help reveal any problems in the system.

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COMMENT
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7. (C) Judges Sadeeq and Hammedi are unhappy about a system
they see as hard on judges. Sadeeq said he is troubled by
public statements to the press made by IA and IP officials who
blame the judges for problems with the justice system. What is
frustrating for Sadeeq, however, is that he and his colleagues
are not permitted to speak to the media, and therefore are
unable to publicly reply to these accusations. As a result,
Sadeeq said the judges simply push on, doing their jobs as best
as they can, given the circumstances. Sadeeq is convinced that
opening dialogue with the IP and IA should improve relations
and, at a minimum, serve as an initial step towards shoring up
the investigative process. More importantly, Sadeeq and Hammedi
have made clear to us they not only want the justice system to
work in Ninewa, but also that success depends on everyone -- IA,
IP, and the courts -- working in unison. We will continue to
follow this issue and assist in any way we can with the upcoming
meeting.
MUNTER