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06KABUL1538
2006-04-06 07:37:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Kabul
Cable title:  

ASSISTANT SECRETARY BOUCHER MEETS KAZAKH FOREIGN

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SUBJECT: ASSISTANT SECRETARY BOUCHER MEETS KAZAKH FOREIGN
MINISTER IN KABUL


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Classified By: AMBASSADOR RONALD E. NEUMANN, FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D
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CENTCOM FOR POLAD, CG CFC-A, CG CJTF-76

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TAGS: PGOV PREL OVIP AF ECON
SUBJECT: ASSISTANT SECRETARY BOUCHER MEETS KAZAKH FOREIGN
MINISTER IN KABUL


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Classified By: AMBASSADOR RONALD E. NEUMANN, FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D
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1.(SBU) SUMMARY: A/S Boucher discussed his upcoming visit to
Kazakhstan and Central Asia with Kazakh Foreign Minister
Kassymzhomart Tokaev April 2 on the margins of the Central
Asia-Caucasus Institute Conference. They discussed
Kazakhstan's regional role, and the importance of integrating
Afghanistan into greater Central Asia. Key topics included
regional trade and energy links, relations with key neighbors
including China and India. A/S Boucher said the creation of
the Bureau of South and Central Asia would allow greater U.S.
focus on Central Asia, and that he would work to improve
regional ties. He also told Tokaev the U.S. does not want
Central Asia stuck between the regional powers and believes
it is healthy for Central Asia to have relations with many
partners. END SUMMARY.

Afghanistan
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2. (C) Foreign Minister Tokaev agreed integrating Afghanistan
into Central Asia was important for Kazakhstan. He said that
Afghanistan had previously been seen as a barrier, but
Central Asian leaders and businessmen should look at
Afghanistan with new eyes. Tokaev agreed exporting oil and
gas to India and Pakistan through Afghanistan may be a real
possibility.

China
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3. (C) Tokaev acknowledged that China was active in Central
Asia. A crude oil pipeline already connects Kazakhstan and
China, and a gas pipeline is being built. Kazakhstan is
somewhat concerned with illegal immigration from China and
Chinese control of the local goods market. A/S Boucher said
he would be discussing Central Asia with the Chinese during
his upcoming trip to Beijing.

India
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4. (C) Tokaev recently visited Bangalore and was taken with

India's impressive high tech sector and exports of USD 12
billion without domestic sources of oil. He said that many
Indian companies are involved in the development of a high
tech zone outside of Almaty. He said that India was a unique
case, with its English speaking population, English
traditions and democratic government that would be hard to
follow. He then said Kazakhstan is moving slowly towards a
democratic future and a better legal system. A/S Boucher
responded that it wasn't English that made India successful,
but the fact that its government and people got the big
picture right: democracy, freedom of the press and a good
legal system. He said that India's main problem was its
bureaucracy's unwillingness to adjust to business needs,
unlike China's. He predicted though, that India would adapt
and could have greater potential than China in the long run.

Energy links
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5. (C) A/S Boucher told Tokaev the two Trans-Caspian pipeline
projects were important to the U.S. Tokaev replied that
Kazakhstan is still committed to alternative pipelines. He
noted the strategic importance of the Caspian Pipeline
Consortium (CPC),but the routing is still being negotiated.
President Nazarbaev has publicly expressed approval of the
Trans-Caspian project. Tokaev added that developing two

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routes in very important. A/S Boucher agreed that the region
needed options, and that depending on a strategic and
economic competitor to transport fuel exports should not be
Kazakhstan's only option.

Trade/Infrastructure Links
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6. (C) A/S Boucher said he wanted to talk about connecting
the missing pieces in regional transport links between
Central Asia and the Indian Ocean when he gets to Kazakhstan.
He wanted to discuss the links that need to be made to make
the transit route a reality. Tokaev said a stable
Afghanistan would improve opportunities, and that Kazakhstan
sought greater trade links with its neighbors. Tokaev
strongly urged A/S Boucher to meet with the Kazakh Minister
of Transportation who has just delivered the national transit
strategy to the government.

TIFA Agreement
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7. (C) A/S Boucher told Tokaev that the U.S. is interested in
moving a TIFA agreement forward, hopefully some time this
summer. He said he would like to find items both sides could
agree on, such as regional linkages, energy opportunities,
democracy and economic arrangements such as the WTO. Tokaev
said the Vice President's upcoming visit would be a good time
to discuss these issues.

Comment
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8. (C) The cordial meeting between A/S Boucher and Foreign
Minister Tokaev provided useful input in preparation for A/S
Boucher's upcoming trip to Kazakhstan. A/S Boucher expressed
interest in finding topics both sides could agree on, and
meeting with the Kazakh Transportation Minister to discuss
transit links. Tokaev seemed to accept the importance the
U.S. places on improving transit and energy links between the
Central Asian Republics and their neighbors, including roads
through Afghanistan to Pakistan and India, and the
Trans-Caspian Pipeline.


9. A/S Boucher did not have a chance to review this cable
prior to departure.



Neumann