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06JEDDAH284
2006-04-10 14:24:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Consulate Jeddah
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BUSINESS COMMUNITY TABLE-TALK

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 JEDDAH 000284 

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RIYADH, PLEASE PASS TO DHAHRAN; DEPARTMENT FOR NEA/ARP;
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/04/2015
TAGS: EAIR ECON KISL SA
SUBJECT: BUSINESS COMMUNITY TABLE-TALK

REF: JEDDAH 103

Classified By: Consul General Tatiana Gfoeller, for
reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 JEDDAH 000284

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RIYADH, PLEASE PASS TO DHAHRAN; DEPARTMENT FOR NEA/ARP;
PARIS FOR ZEYA; LONDON FOR TSOU

E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/04/2015
TAGS: EAIR ECON KISL SA
SUBJECT: BUSINESS COMMUNITY TABLE-TALK

REF: JEDDAH 103

Classified By: Consul General Tatiana Gfoeller, for
reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).


1. C) SUMMARY At a reception hosted by the American
Businessmen of Jeddah (ABJ) held at the CGR on March 29,
guests commented on a variety of topics relating to local
business and economic conditions. In the wake of the recent
public announcement that Saudi Arabian Airline's (Saudia)
privatization plan had been approved by Saudi authorities,
employees were already voicing concern for their jobs. The
recent sharp decline in the Saudi stock exchange was
described as personally painful by some but heralded as an
essential dose of reality by others. A major construction
company expressed satisfaction with the economic outlook, and
surprisingly, satisfaction with Saudi college graduates. END
SUMMARY.


SAUDIA EMPLOYEES ALREADY WORRYING


2. (C) During a reception sponsored by the American
Businessmen of Jeddah (ABJ) on March 29 at the CGR, Pol/Econ
Chief met Dr. Osama A. H. Zahran who is responsible for all
medical clearances for personnel at Saudi Arabian Airlines
(Saudia). When asked about employees' attitude toward the
recently announced privatization plan for the airline, he
indicated that employees were already anticipating job cuts.
He speculated that the cuts would first affect the office
staff, then the support staff, and finally the technical
(among which he included his medical department) and flight
personnel.

EXPATS HURT BY MARKET REVERSE; OPTIMISTIC ABOUT DIRECT
INVESTMENT


3. (C) Pol/Econ Chief spoke with an American employee of Bin
Laden Group who had been enthusiastic about his earnings in
the stock market during another meeting in late winter. Now,
he confessed, he had lost virtually all of his profits in the
declining market over the last month. He was chagrined, but
maintained his optimism, now that expatriates would be
allowed to invest directly. He attributed much of his losses
to the managers of the mutual funds, which had been the only
avenue through which foreigners had been allowed to invest.

He surmised that they had not had much of an investment
strategy and had just bought what was available. He said he
would feel better if he only had himself to blame for any
future losses.

MARKET DECLINE MAY TEACH SAUDIS A LESSON


4. (C) Another guest at the reception, Kamal M. Quadir, a
financial advisor to companies preparing for IPO's, thought
that the bear market could be beneficial because it would
force the Saudi investors to face reality. In his opinion,
the sooner the investing public learned that there should be
a sound financial basis for investment decisions the better.
He also felt that the market authorities and the government
should do a better job of teaching potential investors about
investing.


5. (C) He admitted that one of the greatest difficulties he
experienced in advising companies about preparation for
"going public" was the need for transparency and sound
corporte governance. He observed "it is difficult to
eplain to these companies that in dealing with the lobal
financial enironment, you can't just sit round the kitchen
table and make a decision, or ell them (banks and investors)
that grandfather made the decision and that's it." He
explains to them that decision-making must be
institutionalized and experts consulted. In his opinion, if
Saudi companies fail to make the organizational transition,
and adopt sound methods for corporate governance and
transparency, they will not prosper.

CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HAS DIFFICULTY HIRING ENOUGH ENGINEERS .
. .


6. (C) Several executives from Turner Construction Company
complained about the difficulty they face in hiring enough
experienced engineers and getting them into the country.

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Husein H. Odeh, the General Manager for Saudi operations,
said that he simply could not find enough top engineers in
the U.S. to fill all of his open positions, because of the
restrictions on life in Saudi Arabia.

. . . BUT HAS SUCCESSFULLY HIRED SOME SAUDI ENGINEERS


7. (C) When asked about the employability of Saudi-educated
engineers, he said that they have been successful with a
number of hires, but, he cautioned, they only hire new
graduates who haven't in his words "developed any bad habits
yet." He said the Saudi graduates are competent and if
inculcated with the proper attitude by senior staff, have
proven good employees.

OTHER EMPLOYERS NOT PLEASED WITH SAUDI GRADUATES


8. (C) This experience is sharply at odds with what Pol/Econ
Chief has heard from other senior corporate executives in
recent weeks. More typical were the comments of business
executives attending the Jeddah Economic Forum a few weeks
earlier. At a dinner hosted by the Juffally Family for the
Ambassador, Pol/Econ Chief discussed the employability of
young Saudis with the head of a pharmaceutical company. The
executive brusquely complained that Saudi youths were capable
of doing the basic factory manufacturing tasks, but could not
reliably be permitted to carry out product sales and support
outside the factory. In the executives words: "Lock them in
the factory with a supervisor to watch their every step and
anyone will do. But we can't trust them to go out on the
road and service the product." Several other executives in
the group chimed in with similar comments.

ATTITUDE TOWARD TRAINING MAY BE THE DIFFERENCE


9. (C) COMMENT. Reconciling these contradictory opinions
may be explained by the willingness to train the employee.
Saudi companies seem to be unwilling or unable to provide the
practical training that instills discipline, flexibility and
initiative in workers. This deficiency in their training
system has at least been tacitly admitted by businessmen who
constantly lobby post and American businesses for advanced
training opportunities for Saudi workers (reftel).
Coincidentally, this was demonstrated only a day after the
pessimistic assessment at the Jufally dinner. After the
day's sessions at the Jeddah Economic Forum (JEF) the
Ambassador and Pol/Econ Chief were dining on the patio at the
Hilton Hotel with the Australian Ambassador and Commercial
Officer, when the group was joined by three Saudi
businessmen. In the ensuing discussion, after disparaging
the results of the Saudi educational system, the three
businessmen pleaded with the Ambassadors to persuade American
and Australian businesses to develop internships of a few
weeks or months for young Saudis in order to teach them
modern business practices and personal attitudes. END
COMMENT.

Gfoeller