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06JAKARTA13584
2006-12-26 09:32:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Jakarta
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IO PDAS WARLICK MEETS INDONESIAN NATIONAL SECURITY
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 JAKARTA 013584
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/26/2016
TAGS: PREL UNSC AORC PHUM BM ID
SUBJECT: IO PDAS WARLICK MEETS INDONESIAN NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR DJALAL
REF: A. STATE 197812 (UNSC RESOLUTION ON BURMA)
B. JAKARTA 134497 (INDONESIA ON UNSC)
C. JAKARTA 13579 (IO PDAS MEETS WITH INDONESIAN
FOREIGN MINISTRY OFFICIALS)
Classified By: John A. Heffern, Charge. Reason: 1.4 (b, d)
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 JAKARTA 013584
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SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/26/2016
TAGS: PREL UNSC AORC PHUM BM ID
SUBJECT: IO PDAS WARLICK MEETS INDONESIAN NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR DJALAL
REF: A. STATE 197812 (UNSC RESOLUTION ON BURMA)
B. JAKARTA 134497 (INDONESIA ON UNSC)
C. JAKARTA 13579 (IO PDAS MEETS WITH INDONESIAN
FOREIGN MINISTRY OFFICIALS)
Classified By: John A. Heffern, Charge. Reason: 1.4 (b, d)
1. (C) Summary. In a December 19 meeting with IO PDAS James
B. Warlick, Indonesian National Security Advisor Dino Djalal
stressed that the GOI takes its upcoming UNSC duties very
seriously, and looks forward to a constructive working
relationship with the U.S. He said that President Yudhoyono
was personally focused on UNSC actions on Iran, Iraq, North
Korea and Burma. Djalal said that Indonesia would seek to
increase attention to nuclear non-proliferation and stockpile
during its UNSC tenure. He expressed doubt that the Burmese
regime's actions constitute a real threat to regional
stability, and said that Indonesia was wary of actions that
might strengthen Burma's alignment with China at the expense
of its relations with ASEAN. He reaffirmed that the GOI
would consider participating in a peacekeeping mission in
Iraq, but only if a viable political settlement, including a
process of sectarian reconciliation, were in place. End
summary.
Indonesia A Force For Moderation In NAM
--------------
2. (C) IO PDAS James B. Warlick met in Jakarta December 19
with Dino Djalal, national security advisor and foreign
affairs spokesman to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono
(SBY). Looking ahead to Indonesia's 2007-8 term as a
non-permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, Djalal
said that he realized that Indonesia would be politically
"exposed," and that its decisions would receive heightened
international scrutiny. He explained that Foreign Minister
Hassan Wirajuda would be personally in charge of Indonesia's
UNSC decisions, but that SBY was also heavily involved and
has a particular interest in Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and
Burma.
3. (C) PDAS Warlick inquired about Indonesia's role as a
leader of the Non-Aligned Movement. He noted that the UNSC
functioned differently from the UNGA, and that in light of
the Council's heavy agenda, the U.S. wants to focus the
body's work on practical outcomes, not rhetoric. Djalal
replied that Indonesia saw its role on the UNSC primarily as
representing Asia, but that it could not escape its identity
as a NAM leader. He stressed, however, that Indonesia is now
a voice for moderation within the NAM. Recalling the Havana
NAM summit last September, Djalal said that India and
Indonesia had resisted efforts by Cuba and Venezuela to turn
the event into an anti-Western rally. SBY's speech, he said,
had addressed themes of good governance and democracy.
Djalal explained that Indonesia is "on a new page" in its
relations with the United States. SBY was the first
Indonesian President without "hang-ups" about friendship with
the U.S., and Foreign Minister Wirajuda shares this positive
attitude. Indonesia's
posture in foreign affairs, Djalal said, is now constructive
and opportunity-driven.
Palestine/Mideast
--------------
4. (C) As an example of unhelpful ideological approaches to
the UNSC, PDAS Warlick cited Qatar's practice of repeatedly
introducing resolutions on Mideast issues designed solely to
isolate the U.S. and provoke a veto. Djalal said that SBY
had "gotten religion" on the Palestinian question and asked
whether President Bush had as well, pointing out that the
problem can never be resolved without the full involvement of
the U.S. PDAS Warlick responded that the matter was
primarily a matter for the Quartet, not the UNSC, and that
the U.S. will seek to reinvigorate the Quartet's role under
the incoming Secretary General. He added that Indonesia
brings a lot to the table as a potential player on the
Mideast.
Burma
--------------
5. (C) Turning to Burma, PDAS Warlick said that we are
pleased that the issue is now on the UNSC agenda, stressing
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that the regime's actions were a destabilizing force in the
region. Djalal countered that in his view, the SPDC's
actions were no more destabilizing than other regional
hotspots such as southern Thailand, Poso, or Papua. He
argued that the SPDC had made progress in reconciling with
rebel ethnic groups (except for the Karen),and that real
regional instability would arise if the regime were no longer
able to maintain Burma's national unity. General Than Shwe
likes SBY, Djalal said, and the GOI hopes to use this channel
to persuade the SPDC to reform. Djalal said that Indonesia
was worried that punitive UNSC action might cause the SPDC to
cut its ties to ASEAN; this would only result in closer
alignment between Burma and China, which would be "bad for
Indonesia and bad for the region." PDAS Warlick stressed
that we want UNSC consensus on a resolution that takes a
non-punitive stance on Burma a
nd provides a platform for further engagement by Under
Secretary General Gambari. He added that we were also
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engaging the Chinese on the matter. Djalal requested more
information on our thinking, and we provided him with
non-paper contained reftel A.
Counter-Terrorism
--------------
6. (C) On counter-terrorism, PDAS Warlick stressed that we
are seeking enhanced implementation of UNSC Resolutions 1373
(counter-terrorism) and 1267 (al-Qaeda/Taleban sanctions).
We are also promoting sharing of best practices and technical
expertise among member states. Djalal immediately pledged
Indonesian support on the general question of terrorism,
without specifics. He stressed that "terrorism is our
issue," since groups linked to al-Qaeda had carried out
terrorist acts on Indonesian soil which had cost many lives.
Non-Proliferation
--------------
7. (C) When asked whether Indonesia would bring a specific
agenda to its term on the UNSC, Djalal replied half-jokingly,
"Yes, but you may not like it." He indicated that the GOI
would stress non-proliferation issues, including reduction of
nuclear weapons stockpiles by NPT nuclear states including
the United States. Djalal said that SBY had discussed these
issues with IAEA General Secretary el-Baradei during the
latter's December 7 - 9 visit to Jakarta. Pressed for
specifics, Djalal added that the GOI had not developed
specific language for resolutions.
Peacekeeping/Iraq
--------------
8. (C) PDAS Warlick thanked Djalal for the GOI's contribution
to UNIFIL and asked whether Indonesia would consider
participation in other peacekeeping operations. Djalal said
that the Indonesian military's capacities were limited but
that SBY would consider other requests, including Iraq.
Djalal emphasized that the GOI would only consider
participating in peacekeeping operations in Iraq if a viable
political settlement were in place. He referred to SBY's
November 20 comments to President Bush on Iraq (ref B para
12),and said that any settlement could only be based on what
the Iraqis want. Reconciliation among sectarian factions, he
said, was essential.
9. (U) PDAS Warlick has not had an opportunity to review this
message.
HEFFERN
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SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/26/2016
TAGS: PREL UNSC AORC PHUM BM ID
SUBJECT: IO PDAS WARLICK MEETS INDONESIAN NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR DJALAL
REF: A. STATE 197812 (UNSC RESOLUTION ON BURMA)
B. JAKARTA 134497 (INDONESIA ON UNSC)
C. JAKARTA 13579 (IO PDAS MEETS WITH INDONESIAN
FOREIGN MINISTRY OFFICIALS)
Classified By: John A. Heffern, Charge. Reason: 1.4 (b, d)
1. (C) Summary. In a December 19 meeting with IO PDAS James
B. Warlick, Indonesian National Security Advisor Dino Djalal
stressed that the GOI takes its upcoming UNSC duties very
seriously, and looks forward to a constructive working
relationship with the U.S. He said that President Yudhoyono
was personally focused on UNSC actions on Iran, Iraq, North
Korea and Burma. Djalal said that Indonesia would seek to
increase attention to nuclear non-proliferation and stockpile
during its UNSC tenure. He expressed doubt that the Burmese
regime's actions constitute a real threat to regional
stability, and said that Indonesia was wary of actions that
might strengthen Burma's alignment with China at the expense
of its relations with ASEAN. He reaffirmed that the GOI
would consider participating in a peacekeeping mission in
Iraq, but only if a viable political settlement, including a
process of sectarian reconciliation, were in place. End
summary.
Indonesia A Force For Moderation In NAM
--------------
2. (C) IO PDAS James B. Warlick met in Jakarta December 19
with Dino Djalal, national security advisor and foreign
affairs spokesman to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono
(SBY). Looking ahead to Indonesia's 2007-8 term as a
non-permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, Djalal
said that he realized that Indonesia would be politically
"exposed," and that its decisions would receive heightened
international scrutiny. He explained that Foreign Minister
Hassan Wirajuda would be personally in charge of Indonesia's
UNSC decisions, but that SBY was also heavily involved and
has a particular interest in Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and
Burma.
3. (C) PDAS Warlick inquired about Indonesia's role as a
leader of the Non-Aligned Movement. He noted that the UNSC
functioned differently from the UNGA, and that in light of
the Council's heavy agenda, the U.S. wants to focus the
body's work on practical outcomes, not rhetoric. Djalal
replied that Indonesia saw its role on the UNSC primarily as
representing Asia, but that it could not escape its identity
as a NAM leader. He stressed, however, that Indonesia is now
a voice for moderation within the NAM. Recalling the Havana
NAM summit last September, Djalal said that India and
Indonesia had resisted efforts by Cuba and Venezuela to turn
the event into an anti-Western rally. SBY's speech, he said,
had addressed themes of good governance and democracy.
Djalal explained that Indonesia is "on a new page" in its
relations with the United States. SBY was the first
Indonesian President without "hang-ups" about friendship with
the U.S., and Foreign Minister Wirajuda shares this positive
attitude. Indonesia's
posture in foreign affairs, Djalal said, is now constructive
and opportunity-driven.
Palestine/Mideast
--------------
4. (C) As an example of unhelpful ideological approaches to
the UNSC, PDAS Warlick cited Qatar's practice of repeatedly
introducing resolutions on Mideast issues designed solely to
isolate the U.S. and provoke a veto. Djalal said that SBY
had "gotten religion" on the Palestinian question and asked
whether President Bush had as well, pointing out that the
problem can never be resolved without the full involvement of
the U.S. PDAS Warlick responded that the matter was
primarily a matter for the Quartet, not the UNSC, and that
the U.S. will seek to reinvigorate the Quartet's role under
the incoming Secretary General. He added that Indonesia
brings a lot to the table as a potential player on the
Mideast.
Burma
--------------
5. (C) Turning to Burma, PDAS Warlick said that we are
pleased that the issue is now on the UNSC agenda, stressing
JAKARTA 00013584 002 OF 002
that the regime's actions were a destabilizing force in the
region. Djalal countered that in his view, the SPDC's
actions were no more destabilizing than other regional
hotspots such as southern Thailand, Poso, or Papua. He
argued that the SPDC had made progress in reconciling with
rebel ethnic groups (except for the Karen),and that real
regional instability would arise if the regime were no longer
able to maintain Burma's national unity. General Than Shwe
likes SBY, Djalal said, and the GOI hopes to use this channel
to persuade the SPDC to reform. Djalal said that Indonesia
was worried that punitive UNSC action might cause the SPDC to
cut its ties to ASEAN; this would only result in closer
alignment between Burma and China, which would be "bad for
Indonesia and bad for the region." PDAS Warlick stressed
that we want UNSC consensus on a resolution that takes a
non-punitive stance on Burma a
nd provides a platform for further engagement by Under
Secretary General Gambari. He added that we were also
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engaging the Chinese on the matter. Djalal requested more
information on our thinking, and we provided him with
non-paper contained reftel A.
Counter-Terrorism
--------------
6. (C) On counter-terrorism, PDAS Warlick stressed that we
are seeking enhanced implementation of UNSC Resolutions 1373
(counter-terrorism) and 1267 (al-Qaeda/Taleban sanctions).
We are also promoting sharing of best practices and technical
expertise among member states. Djalal immediately pledged
Indonesian support on the general question of terrorism,
without specifics. He stressed that "terrorism is our
issue," since groups linked to al-Qaeda had carried out
terrorist acts on Indonesian soil which had cost many lives.
Non-Proliferation
--------------
7. (C) When asked whether Indonesia would bring a specific
agenda to its term on the UNSC, Djalal replied half-jokingly,
"Yes, but you may not like it." He indicated that the GOI
would stress non-proliferation issues, including reduction of
nuclear weapons stockpiles by NPT nuclear states including
the United States. Djalal said that SBY had discussed these
issues with IAEA General Secretary el-Baradei during the
latter's December 7 - 9 visit to Jakarta. Pressed for
specifics, Djalal added that the GOI had not developed
specific language for resolutions.
Peacekeeping/Iraq
--------------
8. (C) PDAS Warlick thanked Djalal for the GOI's contribution
to UNIFIL and asked whether Indonesia would consider
participation in other peacekeeping operations. Djalal said
that the Indonesian military's capacities were limited but
that SBY would consider other requests, including Iraq.
Djalal emphasized that the GOI would only consider
participating in peacekeeping operations in Iraq if a viable
political settlement were in place. He referred to SBY's
November 20 comments to President Bush on Iraq (ref B para
12),and said that any settlement could only be based on what
the Iraqis want. Reconciliation among sectarian factions, he
said, was essential.
9. (U) PDAS Warlick has not had an opportunity to review this
message.
HEFFERN