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06HANOI2360
2006-09-15 10:05:00
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Embassy Hanoi
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AMBASSADOR HANFORD MEETS WITH MFA VICE MINISTER BANG:

Tags:  PHUM KIRF PREL PGOV CASC VM 
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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PHUM KIRF PREL PGOV CASC VM
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR HANFORD MEETS WITH MFA VICE MINISTER BANG:
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, PRESIDENT'S VISIT, PRISONERS OF CONCERN

REF: A) HANOI 2358; B) HANOI 1880; C) HANOI 2152 and previous

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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HANOI 002360

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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PHUM KIRF PREL PGOV CASC VM
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR HANFORD MEETS WITH MFA VICE MINISTER BANG:
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, PRESIDENT'S VISIT, PRISONERS OF CONCERN

REF: A) HANOI 2358; B) HANOI 1880; C) HANOI 2152 and previous

Summary
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1. (SBU) Summary: During an August 18 meeting with IRF Ambassador
John Hanford, Vice Foreign Minister Le Van Bang acknowledged that
implementation of the GVN's framework on religion has been slow in
the north because of local officials' concerns about preserving
their power. However, the USG should have no doubt that the GVN
will honor its religious freedom commitments even after WTO
accession. Bang promised to raise with his superiors Hanford's
request for a roadmap letter on religious freedom. The GVN hopes
that the President's November visit will be a success and is working
on several summit deliverables besides WTO, including a number of
commercial deals. The GVN will unconditionally release prisoners of
concern Dr. Pham Hong Son and religious dissident Ma Van Bay on
September 2, and may consider releasing Phan Van Ban on the
condition that he departs for the United States. The GVN also will
allow AmCit De Pham Lifvenborg to travel to Singapore to give birth.
End Summary.


2. (SBU) United States Ambassador-at-Large for International
Religious Freedom John Hanford, accompanied by the Ambassador, met
August 18 with Vice Foreign Minister Le Van Bang. Bang was upbeat
and hopeful that an agreement could soon be reached regarding
Vietnam's Country of Particular Concern (CPC) status. Ambassador
Hanford reiterated Ref A points concerning USG desires for further
progress in the weeks ahead and emphasized the importance of
receiving a letter from Bang outlining GVN intentions over the next
year in the area of religious freedom.


3. (SBU) VFM Bang asserted that the USG should have no fears that
Vietnam might backtrack on its religious freedom promises after the
PNTR issue has been settled because the GVN "always follows through
with its commitments." He also asserted that he personally "always
follows through with commitments made in his letters to foreign
governments." However, he could not commit to the idea of a roadmap

letter until he has vetted the idea with his superiors. The Vice
Minister also revealed that he nearly lost his position after the
May 2005 exchange of letters, as they were quickly referred to as
"an agreement" in the United States. GVN hardliners were very upset
at that characterization, Bang noted.


5. (SBU) Implementation of Vietnam's religious framework has been
slow in the northern provinces, but this is largely because "local
officials remain jealous of their power," VFM Bang continued. This
continues to make it difficult to accelerate implementation. He
noted that Ambassador Marine recently experienced these attitudes of
local officials first-hand in Bac Giang Province (Ref B). The
Ambassador agreed that the local officials' handling of the Bac
Giang Baptist situation seems to be a microcosm of the larger
northern implementation problem, but thanked VFM Bang and his
ministry for helping to arrange the visit.

President's Visit
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6. (SBU) Bang stated that the GVN would very much like to make the
President's November visit a "double success." First, the GVN hopes
that the President's participation will make the APEC Leaders'
Meeting "a substantive success." More important, in the GVN's view,
is the hope that the bilateral component of the President's visit
will showcase the expanding relationship between the two nations and
"cement the United States' role in Southeast Asia." To set the
stage for these successes, the GVN has been focusing on several key
deliverables for the President's visit. A multilateral WTO
accession agreement is nearly finished, although the final PNTR vote
may not happen before the APEC summit. Furthermore, the GVN has
finalized its satellite deal with Lockheed-Martin and is considering
closing other important commercial deals (NFI).

Prisoners of Concern
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7. (SBU) Bang confirmed that the GVN will release prisoners of
concern Dr. Pham Hong Son and Ma Van Bay within days as part of the
September 2 National Day amnesty. He also disputed Ministry of
Public Security Vice Minister Huong's assertion earlier on August 18
that Son's release is conditional on his going to the United States
(septel). The Ambassador asked if prisoner of concern Phan Van Ban
will also be considered for release. Bang replied that he cannot be
considered for amnesty because he has not yet served half of his
sentence. However, as Ban's son is an AmCit, the GVN may be willing
to consider a deal to release him on the condition that he departs
for the United States. The Ambassador also reiterated his request
to visit the fourth prisoner of concern, dissident Nguyen Vu Binh,
in prison.

HANOI 00002360 002 OF 002



AMCIT Case
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8. (SBU) The Ambassador asked if AmCit De Pham Lifvenborg (Ref C)
will be allowed to travel to Singapore in order to receive medical
care related to her childbirth. Bang answered that the GVN had
decided that morning to allow her to leave for "humanitarian
reasons." However, he asked the Ambassador to affirm that she would
return to Vietnam so that the GVN could continue to investigate her
involvement in the ABN-AMRO case. The Ambassador said that Pham has
committed to returning to Vietnam after giving birth in Singapore,
but added that the USG cannot force her to return if she does not
honor this commitment.


9. (SBU) Ambassador Hanford cleared this message.

MARINE