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2006-11-29 09:01:00
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China Southern Airlines: Turning a Profit but No Plans for

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SUBJECT: China Southern Airlines: Turning a Profit but No Plans for
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REFERENCE: A) Guangzhou 11471; B) Guangzhou 8841; C) 05 Guangzhou
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1. (SBU) SUMMARY AND COMMENT: In a November 28 meeting with the
Consul General, China Southern Airlines President Si Xianmin
discussed his airline's improving financial health, its relationship
with U.S. suppliers and airlines, the state of the Chinese airline
industry, and the recent technical test flight of an A380 in
Guangzhou. China Southern currently operates only one route to the
U.S. (via Los Angeles); and previous plans to open a Beijing-New
York route are on hold. The company remains at the mercy of an
inefficient fuel pricing system and faces increasing competition
from international carriers with better brand recognition and more
international routes. END SUMMARY AND COMMENT.

Company Overview
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2. (SBU) China Southern has the largest airline fleet in China and
the most domestic routes, according to China Southern President Si
Xianmin. By the end of 2006, China Southern will have 300
airplanes, of which approximately 200 are Boeing and 100 are Airbus.
(Si was careful to note that two-thirds of China Southern airplanes
are Boeing.) The airline served more than 40 million passengers in
2005, accounting for over one-third of the China market and ranking
10th in the world. Si expects that China Southern will serve more
than 50 million passengers in 2006.

Financial Status
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3. (SBU) After reporting losses throughout 2005 and the first half
of 2006, China Southern turned a profit in the third quarter of

2006. Si cited lower fuel prices as an important - but not the only
- factor affecting the company's improved financial performance.
Nevertheless, he complained that China's fuel pricing system is slow
to react to international price declines, though quick to respond to
increases.


4. (SBU) Si indicated that China Southern's performance in the
fourth quarter would not reach third-quarter levels, largely because
of a traditional downturn in market demand during the winter season.

Nevertheless, he said the airline's strong presence in central and
southern China will alleviate some of the losses from the
less-traveled colder northeast and northwestern regions.

U.S. Routes
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5. (SBU) China Southern currently operates direct flights from
Guangzhou to Los Angeles five days per week. According to Mimi
Chan, China Southern International Relations staff, the L.A. route
continues to lose money and China Southern has no immediate plans to
increase its frequency. (In an April 2006 meeting, China Southern
representatives said the airline was considering moving to seven
flights per week by October 2006. At the same meeting,
representatives said the L.A. flight is usually only 65 percent full
in contrast to 70 percent for other flights and attracts too few
business and first class passengers. See Reftel A)


6. (SBU) When asked about plans to offer a Beijing-New York flight
(mentioned by China Southern representatives in the April 2006
meeting),Si declined to comment and said the airline is moving
cautiously because of strong competition from Air China out of
Beijing and has not yet made a final decision.

Suppliers: Boeing and GE
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7. (SBU) Si emphasized that China Southern has good business
relationships with both Boeing and GE, which produces the engines
China Southern uses on its Boeing aircraft. He noted that China
Southern introduced the Boeing 737, 757, and 777 to the China market
and ordered 10 Boeing 787 Dreamliners in 2005. (China Southern also
ordered six Boeing 777 cargo jets in October 2006 and 50 A320s in
July 2006.) Si traveled to GE headquarters in the U.S. in June 2006
for two weeks of meetings and training, which he said has led to
improved communication between senior management of both companies.


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Working with U.S. Airlines
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8. (SBU) When asked about cooperation with U.S. airlines, Si said
China Southern works most closely with Delta and Northwest. (China
Southern has a code-share agreement with Delta and a frequent-flier
program with Northwest Airlines.) He said China Southern has
invited partners to invest in its cargo business. Though three
companies have expressed interest in cooperating on cargo flights,
reportedly including Northwest, none have made investment offers.

Competitors
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9. (SBU) Si said the expansion of Hong Kong's Cathay Pacific
Airlines into mainland China has increased pressure on China
Southern and other mainland airlines. He noted that Cathay Pacific
has distinct advantages in pricing, international routes, and
service. He added that senior management from Taiwan's China Air
recently expressed the same concerns to him.


10. (SBU) Si doubted that China's growing number of small, private
airlines would thrive because of problems relating to their small
scale, poor safety management, and shortage of skilled staff. He
said the China market currently has room for only the three dominant
airlines.

Airbus 380 Flight to Guangzhou
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11. (SBU) China Southern is the only Chinese airline that has agreed
to purchase the A380, with five on order. On November 22, an A380
landed in Guangzhou's Baiyun Airport for flight certification
testing. Mimi Chan told us that approximately 15 China Southern
pilots and technicians flew with the airplane on a route that
circled Guilin and returned to Guangzhou. The airplane then flew to
Shanghai and Beijing.

GOLDBERG