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2006-10-18 09:05:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Budapest
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ORBAN TELLS AMBASSADORS INSTABILITY IS "A RISK I'M

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/11/2011
TAGS: PGOV KDEM HU
SUBJECT: ORBAN TELLS AMBASSADORS INSTABILITY IS "A RISK I'M
PREPARED TO TAKE"

REF: BUDAPEST 2065 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: POL/C ERIC V. GAUDIOSI; REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D)

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/11/2011
TAGS: PGOV KDEM HU
SUBJECT: ORBAN TELLS AMBASSADORS INSTABILITY IS "A RISK I'M
PREPARED TO TAKE"

REF: BUDAPEST 2065 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: POL/C ERIC V. GAUDIOSI; REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D)


1. (C) FIDESZ leader Viktor Orban told G-7 Ambassadors
October 12 that he believes Prime Minister Gyurcsany "can't
survive" in the face of reduced real income stemming from
higher inflation, increased popular discontent re austerity
measures, and continued opposition from the right. Charging
the Gyurcsany government with "criminal negligence" on the
economy, he charged that Hungary's economic situation was
worse than the government is portraying. He asserted that
Budapest's municipal debt had not been reflected in national
calculations and that expenses for colleges and prisons would
be "worse than expected." He believes the forint remains
overvalued, and predicts inflation climbing to 10%.


2. (C) The end result, he predicts, is that MSZP will blink
first in the present showdown by withdrawing their support
from Gyurcsany. Although FIDESZ will likely conclude its
large-scale demonstrations following its alternate events on
October 23, he believes public discontent will grow over the
winter as austerity measures hit home. FIDESZ is already
working with groups affected by the "Gyurcsany package" to
discuss a "National Strike Committee" to coordinate strikes
in the coming weeks. Ultimately, Orban believes that support
for the PM will decline to 20% next year, and that he will be
out of office "next spring." Indeed, he suggested that
"cracks are already appearing" in the governing coalition.


3. (C) Orban gave new details regarding his proposal for a
"government of experts," suggesting that it would function
not as the cabinet but as a separate body reporting to the
President. He proposed that the experts be grouped in panels
with specific responsibility for reforms in pensions,
education, health, state administration, and the
constitution. He foresaw "6 to 12 months to agree on the
issues" and "6 to 12 months to agree on the financing," and
predicted that constitutional reform would be the most
sensitive - but the most important - area. When asked why he
did not put forward a substantive reform agenda in

Parliament, Orban responded that there could be no "business
as usual." Such a step would only "give the government our
good ideas." Such tactics might work elsewhere, he
concluded, but in Hungary "politics is all about winning
elections."


4. (C) Taking a step back to comment on political
development in Hungary since 1990, Orban and an accompanying
official from the European Peoples' Party (EPP) commented
that Hungary had never completely discredited the old system
by disowning its Communist Party. They believe that voting
has become increasingly about "the person, not the policy,"
and that voters who had supported Gyurcsany, he continued,
now feel "cheated." The MSZP's image had also changed in
that time period, he continued. Although the party had
always "understood power" and the importance of its
grass-roots network, its "slick" new leadership has become
associated with "money ... and lies." When asked if he
himself might not be blamed by the public for promoting
instability, he responded "that is risk I'm prepared to take."


5. (SBU) Orban has, however, backed away from his previous
insistence that FIDESZ will not participate in any of the
official 50th anniversary events, and has now reportedly
agreed that the party will attend portions of the program at
which President Solyom will speak. At the same time, his
public statements indicate that he is setting his sights
higher than just Prime Minister Gyurcsany's removal. In an
article published October 14, Orban states that FIDESZ's goal
is to reduce the MSZP's popularity to its "lowest levels
ever."


6. (C) Comment: Orban continues to play his zero-sum game
with malicious glee. As he continues efforts to build on
FIDESZ's strength at the grass-roots level to pressure the
Gyurcsany government (reftel),he is also keeping an eye on
the party's internal dynamic. By putting popular Debrecen
Mayor Lajos Kosa out in front in representing the interests
of FIDESZ-led regions to the GoH with regard to the National
Development Plan (reftel),he has given a potential rival a
difficult task. Success could further improve advance Kosa's
national reputation, but his failure might serve Orban's
political interests just as well. As one Corvinus University
political scientist explained, Orban is a "political animal"
willing and able to capitalize on popular discontent. Right
now, the professor explained, austerity measures are
highlighting an economic situation that has not matched
either the public's expectations or the politicians' campaign
promises. Our European colleagues, already dealing with

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"enlargement fatigue" in their own capitals, note in the
situation here signs of "accession fatigue" among Hungarians,
who expected assistance - not austerity - from the EU. These
frustrations have given Orban an audience beyond his
traditional base, and he is working to keep their attention
and to attract their support. End Comment.


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