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06BUDAPEST2065
2006-10-12 12:24:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Budapest
Cable title:  

THE RIGHT ON WHAT'S WRONG WITH ORBAN

Tags:  PGOV KDEM HU 
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DEPARTMENT PLEASE PASS TO NSC - DAMON WILSON

E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/10/2011
TAGS: PGOV KDEM HU
SUBJECT: THE RIGHT ON WHAT'S WRONG WITH ORBAN

REF: BUDAPEST 2048 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: POL/C ERIC V. GAUDIOSI; REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D)

C O N F I D E N T I A L BUDAPEST 002065

SIPDIS

SIPDIS

DEPARTMENT PLEASE PASS TO NSC - DAMON WILSON

E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/10/2011
TAGS: PGOV KDEM HU
SUBJECT: THE RIGHT ON WHAT'S WRONG WITH ORBAN

REF: BUDAPEST 2048 AND PREVIOUS

Classified By: POL/C ERIC V. GAUDIOSI; REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D)


1. (SBU) Ambassador Foley's dinner for visiting
Hungarian-American Coalition President Maximilian Teleki
highlighted questions, concerns, and criticism regarding
FIDESZ leader Viktor Orban from traditional supporters.


2. (C) Center-right commentator Istvan Stumpf candidly noted
that "Viktor has made so many big mistakes" in the past year,
particularly in losing the national elections in April and in
failing to reach an accommodation with the Hungarian
Democratic Forum (MDF) in order to unite the opposition.
Many see his subsequent tactics, including reftel calls for a
"government of experts," as directed toward the fundamental
goal of avenging his electoral loss whatever the
consequences. Although Stumpf minimized constitutional
questions surrounding the proposal, he flatly stated that the
idea has "no chance" of success.


3. (C) Orban's decision not to speak in Parliament and then
to send demonstrators home after the confidence vote October
6 remains unexplained and to many inexplicable. Anita Orban
(no relation),Director of the International Center for
Democratic Transition (ICDT),commented that she "knew all
along" the demonstration would be "a bust" because the FIDESZ
leadership is "full of hot air." Indeed, Friday's crowds,
estimated at 70,000, fell far short of FIDESZ's
pre-parliamentary debate prediction of 300,000. Our sources
across the political spectrum tell us that in years past
Orban could have drawn far more people with far less effort.


4. (C) Anita Orban continued that FIDESZ's claims to have
won a "historic victory" in the October 1 local elections
were right, but for the wrong reasons. She believes the
election results will usher in a new generation of party
leaders with independent power bases but a vested interest in
cooperating with the central government to ensure access to
funding - particularly given reports from academic observers
regarding FIDESZ's large campaign debts. She believes this
trend will ultimately make FIDESZ "a bottom-up rather than a
top-down party."


5. (C) Stumpf agreed, noting that "October 2" would have
been the best time for Orban to move on, thus allowing FIDESZ
to make a clean break. As it stands now, Stumpf believes
Orban may never again be FIDESZ's candidate for Prime
Minister. Although he might be better suited to the
Presidency, which would give him more rhetorical than
practical responsibility, Stumpf suggested, perhaps the best
place for him might be Brussels, where his role in the
European Peoples' Party (EPP) could be used to move him from
the domestic political spotlight.


6. (C) Others within FIDESZ agree. Debrecen Mayor Lajos
Kosa has candidly indicated his interest in "replacing Orban
as John Major replaced Margaret Thatcher," emphasizing the
importance of being seen as Orban's heir rather than his
deposer given his personal following.


7. (C) In the meantime, some in the party are keeping their
distance from Orban. FIDESZ insiders have commented that
Orban's recent appearances have been without the party
leadership arrayed behind him, and reports of serious
disagreements within the party regarding the protests
continue. His recent appearances in an armored-plated SUV
with German plates, reportedly provided by an unnamed donor
in Germany, have also raised eyebrows.


8. (C) Comment: Orban's demise has been often predicted but
never realized. Political analyst Krisztian Szabados
compares Orban to a rock star whose fan base "will accept
wild inconsistency as long as he's not boring." Even Deputy
Minister of Culture and Education Katalin Bogjai admits that
her mother "prayed for Orban." As she noted, he has always
given rise to animosity or adoration but never ambivalence.
"To be either the Messiah or the Devil," she concluded, "is
not good for him ... and not healthy for Hungary." End
Comment.








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