Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
06ATHENS2152
2006-08-17 15:17:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Athens
Cable title:
GREECE LIKELY TO SUPPORT UNIFIL THROUGH NAVAL
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C O N F I D E N T I A L ATHENS 002152
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FOR EUR/SE
E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/16/2016
TAGS: MARR MOPS PREL LE GR
SUBJECT: GREECE LIKELY TO SUPPORT UNIFIL THROUGH NAVAL
ASSETS
REF: A. SECSTATE 134133
B. DOI 20060816
Classified By: Ambassador Charles P. Ries for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
C O N F I D E N T I A L ATHENS 002152
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FOR EUR/SE
E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/16/2016
TAGS: MARR MOPS PREL LE GR
SUBJECT: GREECE LIKELY TO SUPPORT UNIFIL THROUGH NAVAL
ASSETS
REF: A. SECSTATE 134133
B. DOI 20060816
Classified By: Ambassador Charles P. Ries for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Summary: MFA and MoD contacts informed Embassy that
Greece plans to respond positively to resolution 1701's call
for contributions for a peacekeeping force in Lebanon. Senior
Greek military planners are focused on providing a naval
force to the future peacekeeping effort in Lebanon, with only
small ground elements to support the staff or to assist
humanitarian efforts. They may also offer the use of Souda
Bay military facilities for logistic support and the use of
their Peacekeeping Operations Training Center in Kilkis
(Northern Greece) for education and preparation of other
nations' troops and staffs prior to their deployment.
However, it is unlikely that Greece would be prepared to
dispatch ground combat forces. End summary.
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Greece's UNIFIL Contribution to Have a Naval Emphasis
-------------- --------------
2. (C) Post delivered subject demarche to relevant MFA and
MoD officials on August 16, in order to ascertain Greek
military contributions under consideration for peacekeeping
operations in southern Lebanon in advance of today's DPKO
meeting in New York on UNIFIL. The official GoG position has
been that Greece is monitoring the prospect for its
contribution in supporting and aiding the UN peace mission in
Lebanon within the framework of the relevant discussions
taking place at the UN and the EU. However, GoG
interlocutors indicated that Greece's contribution would
likely have a naval emphasis given its strong maritime
tradition.
-------------- --------------
Greek CHOD Confirms Greece's Contribution Intentions
-------------- --------------
3 (C) Greek Chief of Defense (CHOD) Admiral Chinofotis
telephoned Ambassador Ries on August 17 to officially confirm
Greece's intended UNIFIL contributions. According to
Chinofotis, who noted he was calling at the request of
Defense Minister Meimarakis, the Greeks are proposing to
contribute a naval force to maintain a maritime zone of
separation between Israeli and Lebanese/Hizbollah vessels.
The Hellenic Navy (HN) force would consist of one Frigate
with an S-70 helicopter and an EOD (Explosive Ordnance
Disposal) team embarked, with one LCT (Landing Craft Tank) in
logistic support (offering sealift between Cyprus and Lebanon
for all force contributions). This element would be
indefinitely provided through Greek force rotations.
Chinofotis' description was identical to what he had
communicated to Embassy DATT on August 16, and at this point
it has the backing of the civilian leadership. Chinofotis
explained, however, that the precise contribution would also
be dependent on the force commander's CONOP's requirements,
and the proposed rules of engagement.
--------------
Ground Operations
--------------
4. (C) Admiral Chinofotis mentioned that they would provide
staff officers to support the Force Headquarters in Southern
Lebanon or at UN Headquarters in New York, but that they did
not have a feel yet as to how many would be needed. When
asked if any ground combat forces would be provided, Admiral
Chinofotis said, "No. We are already very thinly stretched
with more than 1,200 troops abroad on peacekeeping operations
now." He said that they would be willing to provide other
"technical support teams" later, when full cessation of
hostilities has occurred. These teams could include an
engineering company and medical teams, "as in Afghanistan."
When asked how these would operate, Admiral Chinofotis said
he thought they would "be used both in the south and in
Beirut, to assist in the humanitarian reconstruction effort."
--------------
Additional Assets in Greece
--------------
5. (C) Admiral Chinofotis felt the most logical location in
the eastern Mediterranean to support the UN military
operation from would be Souda Bay, Crete. (Note. This
location hosts the NATO naval base and a Greek naval base,
the U.S. facility NSA Souda, a dual-use military-civilian
airfield, and over five-hundred barrack spaces for either a
logistics support base or for troop rotations into Lebanon.
End note.) He also offered the Greek military's Peacekeeping
Operations Training Center in Kilkis (northern Greece) to
educate, train and prepare either international staff or
foreign military units in peacekeeping operations and border
monitoring.
--------------
Rules of Engagement
--------------
6. (C) Admiral Chinofotis' view of their proposed mission is
to establish a "naval embargo zone or naval blockade" in the
sea zone adjacent to the land zone of separation. He pointed
out that for this operation to work, the rules of engagement
would need to be very specific. Admiral Chinofotis told
Ambassador their desired ROE would include "proportional
level" of response and authorize "extended self-defense."
Chinofotis recalled to DATT that during their recent sealift
of evacuees out of Beirut, he had worried that a Hizbollah
anti-ship missile crew would mistake their blue and white
Greek flag for an Israeli flag, or would simply conduct a
missile engagement based on radar data without being able to
visually identify the ship. However, in the event, no
suppressive fires were needed.
--------------
Visit to AFSouth Naples
--------------
7. (C) Admiral Chinofotis also commented that he will begin
a two day, previously scheduled visit to AFSouth Naples
August 18, which will allow further discussion of possible
Greek force contributions with AFSouth Commander Admiral
Ulrich.
8. (C) Comment: It is unlikely that Greece would be prepared
at this juncture to provide ground combat troops to the
UNIFIL effort. Admiral Chinofotis was quick to recite to
DATT the standard explanation that the ground forces were
already overtaxed with Kosovo (where they have 511 troops in
two small mechanized infantry battalions),Afghanistan (209
troops between an engineer company and a 'Role-2' medical
team),Bosnia (90 troops),Congo (30 troops),Albania (10
troops),Sudan (6 troops),and five or less troops each in
"Skopje" (Macedonia),Georgia, Tampa (CENTCOM HQ),Eritrea,
Serbia, Montenegro, Western Sahara and Nagorno Karabach.
Their total contribution (counting 345 sailors in NATO's
Active Endeavor patrols in the Eastern Mediterranean) is
1,221 Greek military personnel in 14 "hotspots" around the
world, and the hyperemotional Greek press is reporting that
most of these areas are becoming more dangerous all the time.
End comment.
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SIPDIS
FOR EUR/SE
E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/16/2016
TAGS: MARR MOPS PREL LE GR
SUBJECT: GREECE LIKELY TO SUPPORT UNIFIL THROUGH NAVAL
ASSETS
REF: A. SECSTATE 134133
B. DOI 20060816
Classified By: Ambassador Charles P. Ries for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Summary: MFA and MoD contacts informed Embassy that
Greece plans to respond positively to resolution 1701's call
for contributions for a peacekeeping force in Lebanon. Senior
Greek military planners are focused on providing a naval
force to the future peacekeeping effort in Lebanon, with only
small ground elements to support the staff or to assist
humanitarian efforts. They may also offer the use of Souda
Bay military facilities for logistic support and the use of
their Peacekeeping Operations Training Center in Kilkis
(Northern Greece) for education and preparation of other
nations' troops and staffs prior to their deployment.
However, it is unlikely that Greece would be prepared to
dispatch ground combat forces. End summary.
-------------- --------------
Greece's UNIFIL Contribution to Have a Naval Emphasis
-------------- --------------
2. (C) Post delivered subject demarche to relevant MFA and
MoD officials on August 16, in order to ascertain Greek
military contributions under consideration for peacekeeping
operations in southern Lebanon in advance of today's DPKO
meeting in New York on UNIFIL. The official GoG position has
been that Greece is monitoring the prospect for its
contribution in supporting and aiding the UN peace mission in
Lebanon within the framework of the relevant discussions
taking place at the UN and the EU. However, GoG
interlocutors indicated that Greece's contribution would
likely have a naval emphasis given its strong maritime
tradition.
-------------- --------------
Greek CHOD Confirms Greece's Contribution Intentions
-------------- --------------
3 (C) Greek Chief of Defense (CHOD) Admiral Chinofotis
telephoned Ambassador Ries on August 17 to officially confirm
Greece's intended UNIFIL contributions. According to
Chinofotis, who noted he was calling at the request of
Defense Minister Meimarakis, the Greeks are proposing to
contribute a naval force to maintain a maritime zone of
separation between Israeli and Lebanese/Hizbollah vessels.
The Hellenic Navy (HN) force would consist of one Frigate
with an S-70 helicopter and an EOD (Explosive Ordnance
Disposal) team embarked, with one LCT (Landing Craft Tank) in
logistic support (offering sealift between Cyprus and Lebanon
for all force contributions). This element would be
indefinitely provided through Greek force rotations.
Chinofotis' description was identical to what he had
communicated to Embassy DATT on August 16, and at this point
it has the backing of the civilian leadership. Chinofotis
explained, however, that the precise contribution would also
be dependent on the force commander's CONOP's requirements,
and the proposed rules of engagement.
--------------
Ground Operations
--------------
4. (C) Admiral Chinofotis mentioned that they would provide
staff officers to support the Force Headquarters in Southern
Lebanon or at UN Headquarters in New York, but that they did
not have a feel yet as to how many would be needed. When
asked if any ground combat forces would be provided, Admiral
Chinofotis said, "No. We are already very thinly stretched
with more than 1,200 troops abroad on peacekeeping operations
now." He said that they would be willing to provide other
"technical support teams" later, when full cessation of
hostilities has occurred. These teams could include an
engineering company and medical teams, "as in Afghanistan."
When asked how these would operate, Admiral Chinofotis said
he thought they would "be used both in the south and in
Beirut, to assist in the humanitarian reconstruction effort."
--------------
Additional Assets in Greece
--------------
5. (C) Admiral Chinofotis felt the most logical location in
the eastern Mediterranean to support the UN military
operation from would be Souda Bay, Crete. (Note. This
location hosts the NATO naval base and a Greek naval base,
the U.S. facility NSA Souda, a dual-use military-civilian
airfield, and over five-hundred barrack spaces for either a
logistics support base or for troop rotations into Lebanon.
End note.) He also offered the Greek military's Peacekeeping
Operations Training Center in Kilkis (northern Greece) to
educate, train and prepare either international staff or
foreign military units in peacekeeping operations and border
monitoring.
--------------
Rules of Engagement
--------------
6. (C) Admiral Chinofotis' view of their proposed mission is
to establish a "naval embargo zone or naval blockade" in the
sea zone adjacent to the land zone of separation. He pointed
out that for this operation to work, the rules of engagement
would need to be very specific. Admiral Chinofotis told
Ambassador their desired ROE would include "proportional
level" of response and authorize "extended self-defense."
Chinofotis recalled to DATT that during their recent sealift
of evacuees out of Beirut, he had worried that a Hizbollah
anti-ship missile crew would mistake their blue and white
Greek flag for an Israeli flag, or would simply conduct a
missile engagement based on radar data without being able to
visually identify the ship. However, in the event, no
suppressive fires were needed.
--------------
Visit to AFSouth Naples
--------------
7. (C) Admiral Chinofotis also commented that he will begin
a two day, previously scheduled visit to AFSouth Naples
August 18, which will allow further discussion of possible
Greek force contributions with AFSouth Commander Admiral
Ulrich.
8. (C) Comment: It is unlikely that Greece would be prepared
at this juncture to provide ground combat troops to the
UNIFIL effort. Admiral Chinofotis was quick to recite to
DATT the standard explanation that the ground forces were
already overtaxed with Kosovo (where they have 511 troops in
two small mechanized infantry battalions),Afghanistan (209
troops between an engineer company and a 'Role-2' medical
team),Bosnia (90 troops),Congo (30 troops),Albania (10
troops),Sudan (6 troops),and five or less troops each in
"Skopje" (Macedonia),Georgia, Tampa (CENTCOM HQ),Eritrea,
Serbia, Montenegro, Western Sahara and Nagorno Karabach.
Their total contribution (counting 345 sailors in NATO's
Active Endeavor patrols in the Eastern Mediterranean) is
1,221 Greek military personnel in 14 "hotspots" around the
world, and the hyperemotional Greek press is reporting that
most of these areas are becoming more dangerous all the time.
End comment.
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