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06AMSTERDAM160
2006-02-28 12:35:00
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Consulate Amsterdam
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NETHERLANDS/MUSLIM OUTREACH: AMSTERDAM MOSQUE HOSTS

Tags:  PTER PREL KISL PGOV PINR SOCI SCUL KPAO NL 
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DUTCH-MOROCCAN WOMEN'S CONFERENCE

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DUTCH-MOROCCAN WOMEN'S CONFERENCE

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1. (SBU) Summary. Nearly 300 Dutch-Moroccan women crowded a
hall at Amsterdam's Al Kabir Mosque on February 19 to hear
spokeswomen from four political parties in advance of March 7
local elections. The meeting was indicative of growing
minority interest in the upcoming polls. Long-term residents,
not just citizens, are eligible to vote, giving immigrant
communities a larger voice than they have in national elections.
Audience comments focused on the Danish cartoon controversy and
alleged discrimination against Muslim job applicants. Though
the atmosphere was cordial, a sense of frustration and growing
impatience was evident on both sides. End Summary.

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DUTCH-MOROCCAN WOMEN SPEAK OUT
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2. (SBU) An all-female, standing-room-only crowd gathered on a
recent Sunday at Amsterdam's largest Moroccan mosque for a
four-hour program of prayer, youth skits and political debate.
CG attended the conference as an observer, having been invited
by local Dutch-Muslim contacts. Four parties (PvdA, VVD, GL and
Amsterdam Anders) sent representatives, several of whom were
Dutch-Moroccans. Asked for a show of hands, about 60 percent of
those present indicated they plan to vote in the March 7
municipal elections. Party representatives described recent and
planned initiatives intended to benefit minority constituencies,
but audience questions and comments were passionate and
critical. Most of those who spoke were younger than 30. Among
the comments:
--Political party representatives visit the neighborhood only
during election campaigns.
--Social services are difficult to access, especially for
middle-aged or older women who do not speak Dutch. Social
service workers are often hostile, uninterested or overly
intrusive.
--Qualified, Dutch-educated Muslim women seek employment in
vain, especially if they wear headscarves. Employers pretend

jobs have been filled, or accept the application but never
contact the applicant.
--Dutch politicians, including those who are Muslim, have failed
to take a firm stand against the Danish cartoons or to
articulate why their publication was insulting to Muslims.
This comment prompted an equally heated response from another
young woman, who said it is up to Muslim citizens, not elected
representatives, to voice their displeasure with the cartoons,
and that they should do so legally and with dignity.


3. (SBU) Party representatives privately said they were not
surprised that younger members of the audience were so concerned
about the Danish cartoons, but they were clearly disappointed
that the progress they cited on housing, education, and job
training got little traction with the most vocal members of this
audience. One young Muslim woman said city government was
simply "doing its job" by providing these services, and should
not expect immigrants to vote for a particular party because of
its record in these areas.

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THE QUESTION OF HEADSCARVES
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4. (SBU) Women from the Mosque were conservatively dressed,
most in long robes and nearly all in headscarves. There was
general agreement that headscarves are more popular among Dutch
Muslim women now than they were five years ago -- and that this
is especially true for young women. One bareheaded young woman
who works for the city government said that girls want to "show
they are Muslims" in response to the "all negative" image of
Muslims in the Dutch press and on TV. To challenge that
perception, and to help themselves develop a more positive
self-image, some decide to dress conservatively and to spend
more time at the Mosque and studying Islam.


5. (SBU) Without exception, the young women at the CG's table -
all in their 20's, Dutch-born and with some post-high school
education-- insisted that Dutch employers will not hire
applicants for office jobs if they wear headscarves. They said
this made them all the more determined to wear a headscarf while
continuing to pursue jobs commensurate with their educations.
Their personal experiences with what they termed discrimination
also seemed to make them more sympathetic to the argument that
the Danish cartoons were published as a deliberate insult to
Muslims.


6. (SBU) Although not a member of the official program, the CG
spoke individually with many of the women. Several --
including some of the non-Muslim political representatives --
asked about the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and
Guantanamo. They accepted the answer that abuse of prisoners is
a crime under U.S. law and that the American people were shocked

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by the evidence of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, but there was
general agreement with a young woman who said the punishment for
these crimes had been meted out unfairly because low-level staff
went to jail and responsible senior officers did not.

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COMMENT
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7. (SBU) Comment. The mood at the event was not unfriendly,
and the women of the Mosque were gracious and welcoming.
Nevertheless there was no missing the fact that the Muslims and
non-Muslims in the room each felt the other was not really
listening to what they had to say. Astonishingly, when lunch
was served at the end of the meeting, the political
representatives sat down together at a table in the corner
instead of distributing themselves around the room to continue a
dialogue with their audience. Asked for her thoughts following
the event, a Dutch police officer who had observed quietly from
the sidelines dismissed the Muslim women's complaints out of
hand. They like to think themselves victims, she said; anyone
can find a job if they really try. End Comment.
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