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05WARSAW2889
2005-07-20 09:58:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Warsaw
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EUR ASSISTANT SECRETARY FRIED BREAKFAST WITH CIVIC

Tags:  PREL PGOV MARR PL 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L WARSAW 002889 

SIPDIS


EUR FOR A/S FRIED; NSC FOR DAMON WILSON

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/12/2015
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR PL
SUBJECT: EUR ASSISTANT SECRETARY FRIED BREAKFAST WITH CIVIC
PLATFORM LEADER JAN ROKITA


Classified By: CDA, A.I., MARY T. CURTIN, FOR REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D)

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SUMMARY
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C O N F I D E N T I A L WARSAW 002889

SIPDIS


EUR FOR A/S FRIED; NSC FOR DAMON WILSON

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/12/2015
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR PL
SUBJECT: EUR ASSISTANT SECRETARY FRIED BREAKFAST WITH CIVIC
PLATFORM LEADER JAN ROKITA


Classified By: CDA, A.I., MARY T. CURTIN, FOR REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D)

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SUMMARY
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1. (C) EUR A/S Dan Fried held a breakfast meeting July 11
with Jan Rokita, the head of the centrist Civic Platform
(PO). Rokita, who is likely to become Prime Minister should
PO lead a coalition government after the September 2005
parliamentary elections, reviewed the political state of play
in the lead-up to the elections, describing honesty in
government and economic competitiveness as the top issues.
On foreign policy, Fried urged Rokita to meet with Iraq
Coordinator Ambassador Richard Jones and CENTCOM Deputy
Commander General Smith during their upcoming visit to
Warsaw. He also urged Rokita to think of Polish-U.S.
bilateral relations in new terms, with Poland as a partner of
the U.S. and regional leader. End Summary

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DOMESTIC POLITICS
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2. (C) Fried, accompanied by Ambassador, NSC Director for
Central, Eastern and Northern Europe Damon Wilson, and
PolCouns, met July 11 with Rokita, who was accompanied by
Jacek Saryusz-Wolski, a PO Member of the European Parliament
and informal foreign policy advisor to Rokita. Fried asked
Rokita for a preview of the upcoming parliamentary and
presidential elections. Rokita complained about the election
schedule, with presidential elections just two weeks after
the September 25 parliamentary elections. It not only pits
PO against its likely coalition partner, Law and Justice
(PiS),but also means that the parties must, in effect have
two leaders--a presidential candidate and parliamentary list
leader, and run two campaigns at once. Rokita said he could
not predict which party, PO or PiS, would lead the coalition,
noting that PiS had pulled ahead of PO in recent months. He
predicted that if PiS leads, it could hurt PiS leader Lech
Kaczynski's chances in the October 9 presidential voting, as
Poles tend to balance their voting, and do not want to see
twin brothers (Jaroslaw Kaczynski heads PiS's parliamentary
list) as President and Prime Minister. Rokita said he

believes the two parties will have a clear majority of
parliamentary seats. If not, however, they will not look to
the Catholic nationalist League of Polish Families (LPR). He
described LPR leader Roman Giertych as "extremely talented,"
and said he is pushing the party to "evolve," but LPR's
position is weakened by the past Communist associations of
Roman's father, Maciej Giertych, who is also LPR's
presidential candidate.


3. (C) Rokita cited honesty in government as the most
critical issue facing the next administration. He defined
the problem as including corruption, but extending also to a
tolerance for the lack of rule of law, and the weakness of
the state. The second critical issue for the next government
will be economic competitiveness, including labor market
problems, taxes, the budget deficit, and barriers to
entrepreneurship. PO and PiS have their greatest differences
on these issues. PO, he said, has a clearly liberal economic
outlook, while PiS is more statist, wanting a strong
government hand to protect various groups in society,
including those with jobs in certain sectors.
(Saryusz-Wolski called Kaczynski a "traditional socialist" on
social/economic issues.) Rokita said PO will insist on its
economic platform if it leads a coalition. He described what
he saw as a "generational change" in economic outlooks, with
economic liberals having a chance to be strong.

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FOREIGN POLICY AND
POLAND'S EVOLVING ROLE
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4. (C) Turning to foreign policy issues, Fried said we want
to see a strong Europe that is a partner, not a rival, of the
U.S. Amb. Ashe added that we see Poland playing a strong
role in shaping a new vision of Europe. On Iraq, Fried said
we are making progress politically, with the government
gaining legitimacy. As this happens, the military will also
keep gaining legitimacy, and become more capable, allowing
coalition partners to stand back. Fried briefed Rokita on
the upcoming visit of Iraq Coordinator Amb. Richard Jones and
CENTCOM Deputy Commander Smith to Poland, and urged him to
accept a briefing on the situation in Iraq (to which other
opposition parties would also be invited).


5. (C) Fried emphasized to Rokita the importance we attach
to Polish-U.S. bilateral relations. He urged Rokita, who is


normally focused almost entirely on domestic political
issues, to think about Poland's future as a regional and
world leader. Poland now counts in Europe, he said, and its
views are taken seriously in Washington. President Bush has
good relations with Polish President Kwasniewski, and talks
to him not just about issues to the east but also to the
west. He urged that PO and PiS leaders consider sending a
team to Washington as soon as possible after elections, if it
turns out they form the next government.


6. (C) Rokita responded that he appreciated the "kind words"
about Poland's role, but said he is also a "realist," and
knows there are many more important countries in the world,
mentioning Russia in this context. Voicing a sentiment
shared by many in his party and PiS, he said Poland does not
always feel it is important to the U.S. Poles, he said,
often feel disappointed with the level of Poland's
relationship with the U.S., and feel theirs is an "unrequited
love." Pro-Americanism in Poland, he said, has diminished.
Fried argued that Rokita was mistaken about the U.S view of
Poland. The U.S. works, for example, to have good relations
with Russia, but it will not sacrifice its friends to be
friends with Putin. Fried pointed to the President's trip to
Moscow in May, preceded and followed by trips to Riga and
Tblisi. Saryusz-Wolski responded that Poles had "taken note"
of Bush's message and appreciated it.


7. (C) Fried continued that Polish-U.S. relations used to
be about Poland--about Poland's freedom and then Poland's
place in Europe. Those problems have been solved, and the
new leadership of Poland should start to think of U.S.-Polish
relations on a new level. When Rokita responded that Poland
was still a "poor country," with "limited ability to be a
partner," Fried responded by urging Rokita to stop thinking
in terms of "poor, courageous Poland" and start thinking of
the future, when Poland will be a prosperous country, able to
play a leading European as well as regional role. Poland's
new leadership needs to think of Poland as a partner of the
U.S., not as a client or a recipient of assistance, and urged
him to plan for Poland as it will be in 15 years, not as it
was in the past.


8. (C) A/S Fried has cleared the text of this cable.
CURTIN