Identifier | Created | Classification | Origin |
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05TELAVIV2053 | 2005-04-04 12:58:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Tel Aviv |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available. |
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 002053 |
1. (C) SUMMARY: During a one-hour meeting in Tel Aviv on March 31, Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres told Senator Carl Levin, accompanied by Senate staff and a delegation from the Michigan Fund, that he and Prime Minister Sharon have similar thoughts on continuing disengagement in the West Bank, but differ on timing. Peres stressed that he will "not embarrass" the PM, who wants to see how disengagement proceeds and to have proof that the Palestinians are dismantling terrorist infrastructure before taking further steps. Peres acknowledged that the Palestinians are reluctant to coordinate disengagement, but said he hopes that they will cooperate at least on the handover of buildings left behind by the settlers. He maintained that the weaknesses of the Israeli electoral system and the lack of a Palestinian political system "explain all of the maneuvering on the peace process." In response to questions by Senator Levin, Peres gave an Israeli assessment of the situation in Iraq and the role played by Jordan, Syria, and Iran. Peres stressed the importance that private groups and companies play in fostering peace, welcomed the Michigan Fund initiative, and outlined charity, business, and sports projects where the group could be of help. END SUMMARY. -------------------------- Disengagement: Next Steps and Details -------------------------- 2. (C) The CoDel asked about Israeli intentions once disengagement is complete. Peres replied that he believed that "after Gaza we have to continue in the West Bank." He acknowledged that PM Sharon wants to see how disengagement proceeds and have proof that the Palestinian Authority is dismantling terrorist infrastructure before making any decisions. "I am not going to embarrass him," Peres insisted, but "I've clearly told him our intentions." Peres said that Sharon had informed him that they "see eye-to-eye on all the issues -- the difference is timing." Senator Levin reiterated U.S. support for the disengagement plan. 3. (C) Senator Levin asked Peres about coordination with the Palestinians and the status of property left behind by the settlers. Peres replied that "the Palestinians will never agree to coordinate" the larger aspects of disengagement. Cooperation on property would also be difficult, he said, but the only other options are destruction by either the Israelis or Palestinians. Peres said it would be a "foolish" public relations disaster and a "crime" for Israel to destroy the property. He noted that the greenhouses could employ hundreds of Palestinians and suggested that the Palestinians convert two or three settlements into resorts. 4. (C) Peres maintained that the weakness of both Israeli and Palestinian political structures "explains all of the maneuvering on the peace process" and "makes us all more Machiavellian than we intend." He said the Israeli electoral system results in a multitude of parties in the Knesset, some of which (he mentioned Likud and religious parties) are themselves divided. This situation necessitates new coalitions on each issue, he added, raising the cost of each successive agreement to the point where there is "no chance to agree on peace and religion" in one coalition. He claimed the Labor Party had sacrificed all other issues to give PM Sharon a majority for the disengagement plan, foregoing the job of foreign minister, supporting a budget it did not like, and voting for Sharon's proposed expansion of the Cabinet. Peres said the Palestinian weakness stems not from their political system, but from their lack of one. -------------------------- --- Views on Iraq, Middle East Peace, and the Region -------------------------- --- 5. (C) Senator Levin asked about Israeli views on Iraq. "I don't know who won the elections in Iraq," replied Peres, "but clearly Saddam Hussein lost them." In Peres' opinion, there is no alternative to a unity government that includes Sunni representation and an appropriate role for the Kurds. Peres described Jordan as "too weak" to play a role in Iraq, despite the Hashemite family's historic ties to Baghdad. He labeled Iran's desire for Shia states in Iraq and Lebanon and support for Hizballah as "very dangerous." Peres said that Syria is preoccupied with Lebanon, noting that 20 percent of Syria's economy and much of the money it needs for arms purchases comes from Lebanon. 6. (C) While praising the USG's strong pro-democracy agenda in the Middle East, Peres cautioned that elections are not enough. He urged the USG to "privatize peace" by building the economic basis that leads to societal changes. He praised the role of U.S. companies in computerizing the Jordanian educational system and suggested that similar efforts would work in Iraq, as they already have in India and China. -------------------------- Peres Welcomes the Michigan Fund -------------------------- 7. (C) Senator Levin introduced members of his delegation from the Michigan Fund, explained the organization's objectives, and stressed the importance of even symbolic success stories. Peres welcomed the initiative, stressing "we need to make peace economic, not just political." Peres outlined his ideas for a social fund to help the Palestinian Authority compete with Hamas and avoid a "catastrophe" in the July elections. According to Peres' plan, the fund would pay 200,000 needy Palestinian families USD 100 per month. Peres noted that he had originally hoped that the USG and the Europeans would each fund half of this program, but had faced donor fatigue in Europe and complications due to social security reform in the U.S. Peres claimed that he had nevertheless obtained a pledge of USD 40 million while in Spain and still considers the fund important for its symbolic value. As an alternative, U.S. donors could support individual social projects, he said, mentioning successful efforts such as a program treating Palestinian children traumatized by the Intifada and the work of joint Jewish-Palestinian cultural centers. 8. (C) Peres described Qualified Industrial Zones as "the greatest success in the Middle East." He stressed the importance of private sector involvement in creating jobs and urged U.S. companies and investors to open businesses in industrial areas in Gaza and the West Bank. He volunteered assistance from his staff for any problems U.S. companies or investors might encounter. As a final alternative, Peres suggested that U.S. donors could build tennis clubs where Palestinian and Israeli children could learn tolerance and coexistence through sporting activities. 9. (SBU) Senator Levin inquired about the technologies being installed to lower the hurdles to the passage of people and products at checkpoints. Peres explained a USD 140 million program, financed jointly by the World Bank and GOI, which will use modern scanning technology to reduce border crossing times to two or three hours for cargo. 10. 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