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05KUWAIT669
2005-02-15 08:13:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Kuwait
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MINISTER OF FINANCE AND TREASURY U/S DISCUSS AID

Tags:  ECON EAID EFIN KU IZ GZ WE 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KUWAIT 000669 

SIPDIS

STATE FOR NEA/ARPI
EB/IFD/OIA ABRYAN
EB/ESC/TFS BSTEPHENSON
S/CT TKUSHNER
OFAC DIRECTOR RWERNER
TREASURY FOR U/S TAYLOR, S. RENANDER

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/15/2015
TAGS: ECON EAID EFIN KU IZ GZ WE
SUBJECT: MINISTER OF FINANCE AND TREASURY U/S DISCUSS AID
TO PALESTINIANS, IRAQI DEBT, TERROR FINANCE, BMENA AND U.S.
DEFICIT

REF: SECSTATE 26150

Classified By: Ambassador Richard LeBaron for reason 1.4 (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KUWAIT 000669

SIPDIS

STATE FOR NEA/ARPI
EB/IFD/OIA ABRYAN
EB/ESC/TFS BSTEPHENSON
S/CT TKUSHNER
OFAC DIRECTOR RWERNER
TREASURY FOR U/S TAYLOR, S. RENANDER

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/15/2015
TAGS: ECON EAID EFIN KU IZ GZ WE
SUBJECT: MINISTER OF FINANCE AND TREASURY U/S DISCUSS AID
TO PALESTINIANS, IRAQI DEBT, TERROR FINANCE, BMENA AND U.S.
DEFICIT

REF: SECSTATE 26150

Classified By: Ambassador Richard LeBaron for reason 1.4 (d)


1. (C) Summary: Kuwaiti Finance Minister Mahmoud Al-Nouri
hosted a working dinner 9 February for Department of Treasury
Undersecretary John Taylor at which the two discussed aid to
the Palestinians, Iraqi debt and reconstruction, future plans
for BMENA and G8 involvement in economic and political
reform, terror finance interdiction, the U.S. deficit and
other general economic issues. The Finance Minister outlined
specific steps that the Palestinians needed to take in order
for Kuwait to continue its financial support, described his
understanding of Iraq's debt to Kuwait, and shared his views
on some of the BMENA and G8 economic and political reform
initiatives. U/S Taylor explained the need to help the
Palestinians respond to budget shortfalls, asked for a
renewed focus on terror finance legislation and enforcement,
and explained what steps the USG was taking to reign in the
deficit. Also attending the dinner were Ambassador Richard
LeBaron, Ministry of Finance Undersecretary Mustafa
Al-Shamali, Kuwait Investment Authority Managing Director
Bader Al-Saad, Treasury Department Advisor Sonja Renander and
Econ Officer (notetaker). End Summary.

Aid to PA
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2. (C) U/S Taylor said that the USG was trying to support
the Palestinians as much as possible and described Finance
Minister Fayyad as a responsible overseer of Palestinian
funds (reftel). He then explained that the Palestinian
Authority will likely be $500 million short in the current
fiscal year, and that the USG had pledged $350 million. In
response to U/S Taylor's request that Kuwait do all it can to
support the newly elected Palestinian government and the
Palestinian people, Al-Nouri outlined three specific
conditions that he said Kuwait was waiting for in order to
provide continued support. He said that Kuwait has always

been a generous supporter of the Palestinians and would
continue to be so, but needed Abbas to form a government and
needed him to come to Kuwait and talk to the GOK. He
complained about people in the Palestinian government that
are still "attacking Kuwait or against Kuwait" and he also
said that Kuwait must be assured that any money given in aid
will be put to good use and not touched by any corrupt people.

Iraq Debt Reduction
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3. (C) U/S Taylor asked for Kuwait's support on debt
reduction for Iraq and Al-Nouri said that Kuwait was willing
to match the Paris Club agreement, but needed to work out a
specific formula directly with the Iraqis. He said that the
Iraqi Central Bank Governor and Finance Minister (once
appointed) would likely come to Kuwait to discuss the
specifics of the debt reduction plan. Al-Nouri explained
that a large portion of Kuwait's loans to Iraq had been made
interest-free and that this needed to be taken into account
when determining "comparable treatment" to the Paris Club
decision. The 80% reduction agreed to by other countries
means that they are mostly forgiving the interest and not the
principal, whereas Iraq's debt to Kuwait is mostly principal,
Al-Nouri said.

Regional Initiatives
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4. (C) After the U/S and the Minister discussed recent
Broader Middle East and North Africa (BMENA) and G8
initiatives for economic and political reform throughout the
region, Al-Nouri reiterated his disagreement with some of the
initiatives being developed. First, he said, the $100
million IFC facility is "too small." Second, Al-Nouri said
that the network of funds made available could be perceived
as being "controlled by the U.S.," rather than being at the
direction of those in the region. U/S Taylor asked that
Kuwait remain actively engaged in the dialogue and encourage
more money to be added to the IFC facility when the time was
right. On the second point, U/S Taylor explained that the
U.S. has no desire to control the funds and simply wants to
ensure that the money is used appropriately. Al-Nouri also
said there was already good coordination among the various
Arab regional financial institutions and he feared giving the
Arab League any entree in to these mechanisms through BMENA
channels.

Terrorism in Kuwait & Terror Finance
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5. (C) The group discussed the recent shootouts between
extremists and police in Kuwait, and U/S Taylor urged the
Finance Minister to continue enacting and enforcing proper
legislation to crack down on terror financing. Al-Nouri said
that he and others were not surprised by the recent shootouts
and were "expecting it for the past six months." "We're in
the neighborhood of Saudi Arabia and Iraq," he added, "so it
would be unusual for something not to happen." He said that
the GOK was ready to deal with the problem and that the
public was overwhelmingly against the terrorists. He
explained that the Central Bank has a special committee on
terror financing, chaired by the Central Bank Governor, and
that Kuwait was also participating in GCC-wide efforts to
crack down on terror financing. When asked about the free
flow of currency across borders, Al-Nouri said that the
Cabinet had issued a proclamation to control cash flows and
that the Customs Agency was in charge of enforcing it.
(Note: Implementation rules are still being worked out.)
Al-Nouri then repeated an opinion on terror finance
interdiction that he had earlier shared with the Ambassador,
that the challenge was not in the big money transfers, but in
controlling the small amounts that were needed to buy guns,
grenades or other small weapons.

U.S. Deficit
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6. (U) Al-Nouri asked about the U.S. deficit and U.S. dollar
policy, and U/S Taylor explained that the U.S. supports a
strong dollar policy and that the President's proposed budget
provides for fiscal tightening to cut down the deficit. U/S
Taylor further explained the difficulties in bringing down
the deficit in light of a surge in imports from China and
China's monetary policy, but said that the U.S. continues to
work diligently on these issues.

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