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05KATHMANDU2866
2005-12-19 11:33:00
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Embassy Kathmandu
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NEPAL'S MAN IN TIBET DISCUSSES REFUGEE, ARMS AND

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KATHMANDU 002866 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/18/2015
TAGS: PREL PREF MASS MCAP SENV NP CH
SUBJECT: NEPAL'S MAN IN TIBET DISCUSSES REFUGEE, ARMS AND
FLOOD ISSUES

REF: A. KATHMANDU 0174


B. KATHMANDU 2596

Classified By: CDA Elisabeth I. Millard; Reasons 1.4 (b/d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KATHMANDU 002866

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/18/2015
TAGS: PREL PREF MASS MCAP SENV NP CH
SUBJECT: NEPAL'S MAN IN TIBET DISCUSSES REFUGEE, ARMS AND
FLOOD ISSUES

REF: A. KATHMANDU 0174


B. KATHMANDU 2596

Classified By: CDA Elisabeth I. Millard; Reasons 1.4 (b/d)


1. (C/NF) SUMMARY: NEPAL'S DIPLOMAT IN LHASA HAS CONFIRMED
THAT CHINESE PRESSURE PROMPTED NEPAL TO CLOSE THE TIBETAN
REFUGEE WELFARE OFFICE IN KATHMANDU LAST YEAR. CONTINUING
PRESSURE FROM THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (PRC) ALSO MEANS
THAT NEPAL DOES NOT PLAN TO RECOGNIZE A SUBSTITUTE
ORGANIZATION ALTHOUGH "THE SAME PEOPLE" WHO WORKED WITH
REFUGEES ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THEIR SERVICES, HE SAID. ON
A CHINESE ARMS TRANSFER TO THE ROYAL NEPAL ARMY (RNA),CONSUL
GENERAL LEELA MANI PAUDYAL CONFIRMED THE RECENT TRANSFER OF
LETHAL WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION ACROSS THE TIBET AUTONOMOUS
REGION (TAR). HE PUT HIS DISCUSSION OF BOTH THE REFUGEE AND
ARMS ISSUES IN THE CONTEXT OF NEPAL ACTING "NOT BY CHOICE BUT
BY COMPULSION." PAUDYAL COMPLAINED ABOUT CHINA'S REFUSAL TO
ALERT NEPAL TO HIGH WATER LEVELS ALONG THEIR COMMON BORDER
WHICH THREATEN TO FLOOD NEPAL. END SUMMARY.

STATUS AND SERVICES FOR REFUGEES IN NEPAL WILL NOT CHANGE
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2. (C/NF) ON TIBETAN REFUGEES, CG PAUDYAL REAFFIRMED NEPAL'S
COMMITMENT TO PROTECT THE TIBETAN REFUGEES. HE EXPLAINED
THAT HIS MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT OF NEPAL (HMGN) WAS NOT IN A
POSITION TO RESIST PRESSURE FROM THE PRC TO CLOSE DOWN
OFFICIAL SUPPORT TO TIBETAN REFUGEES. THIS HAD LED TO THE
CLOSING OF THE TIBETAN WELFARE OFFICE IN JANUARY 2005 (REF A)
AND WOULD PREVENT ANOTHER ENTITY FROM BEING REREGISTERED IN
ITS PLACE, PAUDYAL SAID. IN SPITE OF THIS, NEPAL WAS
ALLOWING "THE SAME PEOPLE" WHO WORKED IN SERVICES TO THE
REFUGEES IN THE PAST TO CONTINUE SERVING THE REFUGEES. NEPAL
WOULD NOT RETURN ANY MORE REFUGEES TO THE PRC AT CHINA'S
REQUEST. THE TOTAL EIGHTEEN WHO WERE RETURNED MORE THAN TWO
YEARS AGO (WHEN PAUDYAL TOOK UP HIS POST) EVENTUALLY GOT TO

GO HOME, HMGN WAS TOLD. HOWEVER, THAT WAS A DIFFICULT
SITUATION.

NEPAL VIS-A-VIS CHINA: COMPULSION, NOT CHOICE
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3. (SBU/NF) FORTY YEARS AGO, NEPAL HAD MORE LEVERAGE WITH
CHINA, THEN ISOLATED AND IN NEED OF ALLIES, PAUDYAL
EXPLAINED. HMGN HAD BEEN ABLE TO WORK THOSE COLD-WAR
CIRCUMSTANCES TO ITS ADVANTAGE IN LEVERAGING ISSUES WITH
CHINA. TODAY, HOWEVER, CHINA WAS A BIG NATION POLITICALLY
AND ECONOMICALLY AND NEPAL NEEDED TO GET ALONG WITH THIS BIG
NEIGHBOR. PAUDYAL SUMMARIZED THE NEPAL-CHINESE RELATIONSHIP
BY SAYING "IT IS NOT BY CHOICE BUT BY COMPULSION" THAT HMGN
HAD TAKEN THE CHINESE ROUTE ON REFUGEE AND ARMS TRANSFERS.


4. (C/NF) MILITARY TRANSFERS WERE AN EXAMPLE OF THE
"COMPULSION" OF NEPAL'S GEO-POLITICAL STATUS, AS POUDYAL
DESCRIBED IT. HE CONFIRMED THE INCLUSION OF LETHAL WEAPONS
AND AMMUNITION IN THE RECENT DELIVERY AND THAT NO PAYMENT WAS
MADE ALTHOUGH SPECIFICS ON THE MATERIEL TRANSFER WERE NOT
DISCUSSED (REF B). HE EXPRESSED A STRONG DESIRE NOT TO HAVE
TO RETURN TO THE CHINESE FOR MORE EQUIPMENT AT A FUTURE TIME.


NEPAL'S BALANCING ACT IN BEST INTERESTS OF ALL
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5. (C/NF) THE ONLY DIPLOMAT IN THE TAR, POUDYAL AVERRED THAT
NEPAL'S WILLINGNESS TO GO ALONG WITH THE CHINESE ON THE
REFUGEE AND MILITARY ARENAS WAS A POSITIVE FACTOR IN THE
BROADER INTERNATIONAL BALANCE OF POWER, INCLUDING INDIA AND
THE UNITED STATES. HE ASSERTED THAT IF NEPAL OPPOSED CHINA
TOO MUCH, THE CHINESE COULD PRESSURE NEPAL TO AN EXTENT THAT
OUTSIDE HELP FOR HMGN MIGHT BE REQUIRED. THE BALANCING ACT

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THAT NEPAL WAS PLAYING WITH CHINA WAS THUS IN EVERYONE'S
INTEREST.

THE CROSS-BOUNDARY FLOOD THREAT
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6. (C/NF) TURNING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL MATTER ON WHICH
POUDYAL FIRST MET THE REGIONAL ENVIRONMENT OFFICER (REO) IN
LHASA WITH WHOM HE WAS FOLLOWING UP ON LARGER ISSUES, THE
CONSUL GENERAL COMPLAINED THAT THE PRC MUST BE MADE TO FOLLOW
UP ON ITS PROMISE TO SHARE DATA ON WATER LEVELS WITH NEPAL.
THE TRANSBOUNDARY BHOTE KOSHI RIVER ENTERS NEPAL AT
FIVE-TO-SEVEN MINUTES' NOTICE TIME ABOVE THE BHOTE KOSHI
HYDROPOWER PLANT (THE MAJOR U.S. INVESTMENT IN NEPAL). AT
THE REGIONAL MEETING ON FLASH FLOODS, TAR HYDROLOGISTS HAD
OFFERED TO SHARE RIVER INFORMATION MUCH EARLIER THAN AT THE
BORDER POINT IN ORDER TO HELP PREVENT FLASH FLOODS IN NEPAL.
POUDYAL SAID HIGHER PRC PERSONNEL WERE NOT CARRYING THROUGH.
IF THE RIVER BANKS BREAK JUST ABOVE THE BORDER, THE FLASH
FLOOD THAT ENSUES COULD WASH OUT EVERYTHING IN NEPAL FROM
TATOPANI NEAR THE BORDER TO DOLAGHAT. THE ECOLOGICAL
DISTURBANCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS FOR HUMAN LIFE ARE
IMMENSE, HE CONCLUDED.


7. (C/NF) COMMENT. POUDYAL'S PURPOSE SEEMED TO HAVE THE USG
UNDERSTAND THE BROADER CONTEXT IN WHICH CONTROVERSIAL AREAS
IN THE NEPALI-CHINESE RELATIONSHIP COULD SERVE MUCH BROADER
INTERESTS, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES. HIS HONESTY WITH
INFORMATION WAS WORTHWHILE ALTHOUGH HIS PERSPECTIVE IS NOT
ONE WE SHARE. END COMMENT.
MILLARD