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2005-02-04 15:59:00
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Embassy Helsinki
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AMBASSADOR'S LUNCH WITH FM: MIDDLE EAST IS "NUMBER

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SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/03/2015
TAGS: PREL XF AF ID CH MARR CASC KIPR FI EUN
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR'S LUNCH WITH FM: MIDDLE EAST IS "NUMBER
ONE ITEM" FOR PRESIDENT'S MEETING WITH THE EUROPEAN
COMMISSION

REF: HELSINKI 137

Classified By: Ambassador Earle I. Mack for reasons 1.4(B) and (D)

Summary
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 HELSINKI 000160

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/03/2015
TAGS: PREL XF AF ID CH MARR CASC KIPR FI EUN
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR'S LUNCH WITH FM: MIDDLE EAST IS "NUMBER
ONE ITEM" FOR PRESIDENT'S MEETING WITH THE EUROPEAN
COMMISSION

REF: HELSINKI 137

Classified By: Ambassador Earle I. Mack for reasons 1.4(B) and (D)

Summary
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1. (C) Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja invited the
Ambassador to a working lunch February 2. Tuomioja was more
relaxed and upbeat than we have seen for some time; the
Ambassador was received unusually warmly and a cordial
atmosphere existed throughout. The FM welcomed the
President's February 22 visit to Brussels, and said he
thought the first priority on the agenda should be the Middle
East. The U.S. and EU should not allow the momentum
generated by the Palestinian election and the Gaza withdrawal
plan to dissipate, he said. He argued that Abbas has done
"all the right things" and needs to see Israeli reciprocity,
and said a good reciprocal gesture would be the elimination
of the settlers' outposts in the West Bank. Tuomioja will
visit the region in April (clearly with Finland's 2006 EU
presidency in mind).


2. (C) Tuomioja said he hopes to pay an introductory call on
the Secretary during a visit to the United States in April,
and he invited the Secretary to visit Finland, suggesting
that cooperation within the Partnership for Peace could be a
theme for such a visit. The Ambassador raised the question
of the EU's China arms embargo, stressing the U.S. belief
that lifting it would send the wrong signal at the wrong
time. Tuomioja asserted that the Code of Conduct would be a
more effective instrument than the embargo if it is
strengthened and made legally binding, and the GoF sees this
as an opportune moment to win EU agreement to such changes.
The Ambassador thanked Finland for its contributions to
reconstruction in Afghanistan; Tuomioja said the GoF
recognizes that its commitment there -- as in KOSOVO -- is
long-term, with no pre-set timetable. On the Aceh talks
mediated by former President Ahtisaari, Tuomioja opined that

at the first meeting there were more problems on the
Indonesian government side than with the GAM; at any rate, it
is a positive sign that the talks are continuing. Tuomioja
seemed comfortable with the proposed expansion of Finland's
peacekeeping law to allow troops to be deployed based on an
EU mandate -- an expansion that President Halonen has
questioned. The Ambassador said the issue of protecting the
intellectual property rights of pharmaceutical companies
seems to be headed in the right direction; Tuomioja
acknowledged its importance, remarking that the GoF invests
public money in R&D funding. The FM said that with the
Rogers child custody case having reverted to U.S. courts, he
hopes the children's mother will be allowed a fair hearing.
(Note: The Iraq portion of the conversation was reported
reftel.) End Summary.

The President's Brussels Visit, and Meetings
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with the Secretary
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3. (C) FM Tuomioja invited the Ambassador to a working lunch
at the MFA on February 2. The FM was joined by Markus Lyra,
Under Secretary for Political Affairs, Marianne
Huusko-Lamponen, advisor to the Minister, and Leena Liukkonen
of the USA desk. The Ambassador was accompanied by the DCM
and POL chief. The Minister began the conversation by
expressing his pleasure that the President is coming to
Brussels February 22. This will be a "symbolic event," he
commented, in that the President is meeting with the European
Commission -- a recognition of the EU's involvement in many
items of immediate trans-Atlantic interest, especially trade.
Tuomioja said it was his understanding that the Secretary
might have a separate meeting with the assembled heads of
government while the President is meeting with the
Commission; the FM supported this approach as being the most
productive use of time.


4. (C) The Minister reported that he will be in New York at
the end of April for the "final meeting" of the Helsinki
Group on globalization, which he co-chairs with the Tanzanian
FM. While in the U.S., Tuomioja would like to pay an
introductory bilateral call on the Secretary, and he hopes a
date can be found in her busy schedule for such a meeting.
In addition, he said, "We would very much welcome a visit by
the Secretary to Finland." He suggested that she might want
to consider including Helsinki in a future European visit, or
might want to visit the European members of the Partnership
for Peace. Tuomioja commented ruefully that visits to
Finland by U.S. Secretaries of State have become fewer in
recent years: "The world doesn't need neutral meeting places
so much any more. It's a gain for the world, but a loss for
us."
The Middle East
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5. (C) The Ambassador asked what Tuomioja thought should be
the focus for the President's visit to Brussels. The FM said
"the number one item" for the U.S. and the EU now is the
Middle East. "We have a real opportunity for the first time
to move forward, and everyone needs to be on board."
Tuomioja said that so far Mahmoud Abbas has done all the
right things. There is much still to be done, but the FM
argued that Abbas has tackled some of the most difficult
issues already, and Israeli reciprocity is needed. The
Middle East is a minefield -- one misstep, and hard-won
progress can disappear. But still, he said, the GoF is very
hopeful, and he stressed the importance of the U.S. and EU
working together to keep things moving in the right
direction. "All of us have to be involved on the ground" to
keep up the momentum generated by the Palestinian election
and the Gaza withdrawal plan.


6. (C) The Ambassador asked what the Minister thought the
next steps should be. Tuomioja said he feared that "some in
the GoI feel it should be Gaza first and last." The Israelis
could make a start in the West Bank by removing the outposts,
which the international community agrees are not legal.
Doing so is one of the steps in the Road Map. The Road Map
may be imperfect, he added, but it's the only game in town,
and Finland supports it. The Ambassador thanked Tuomioja for
that support. The FM urged the U.S. to make the maximum use
of its influence with Israel; "We have slightly more
influence with the Palestinians, which we are using to the
full," he said.


7. (C) The Ambassador noted that the FM will be going to the
region in April, visiting both Israel and the Palestinian
Authority. Tuomioja acknowledged that this will be his first
visit to Israel since he became Foreign Minister in 2000,
although he had been there in earlier years. The DCM,
referring to Finland's upcoming EU presidency (July-December
2006),asked if Tuomioja is going in his national capacity,
or as an EU representative. Tuomioja essentially answered,
both. The EU "has a coordination process that works very
well. I will check in with Solana before I go, and report
back afterwards." He added that some in the EU question
whether the European Union truly has a Common Foreign and
Security Policy. On the Middle East, the answer is yes. No
matter what differences exist within the EU on this question
-- and there are some -- all member countries understand that
if they are to have any influence on the Middle East they
must work together.


8. (SBU) Under Secretary Lyra called our attention to the
fact that Finland will host a February 7-9 seminar on
hazardous waste disposal in the Middle East, which will be
attended by representatives of the Israeli Government and the
Palestinian Authority, as well as Egypt and Jordan. He said
that former Finnish Environment Minister Pekka Haavisto,
working on behalf of UNEP, which will co-chair, "has been
very helpful in moving this forward through thick and thin."


9. (C) The Ambassador and DCM asked the Minister for his
concept of the future architecture of the Middle East: what
should it include? Tuomioja said the reality is that we
cannot hope for an ideal solution, but it would have to
include Israel and an independent Palestinian state, both as
viable nations, with more or less normal relations with each
other, and some form of international guarantees. The
Minister noted that final status issues have not yet begun to
be addressed, but the Geneva Accord provides some interesting
proposals and shows that no issue is intractable if the
parties have the will to resolve it. The Ambassador stressed
that whatever we might hope for in a final agreement, the
Palestinians must assume their share of responsibility for
security -- the bloodshed must stop. The international
community should help them accomplish that.


10. (C) Tuomioja commented that the Palestinians are the
number one candidate for a real model of a functioning Arab
democracy. The DCM mentioned the Embassy's outreach to
Finland's Muslim population; at one reception an Iraqi
immigrant had pointed out to his fellow Muslims that Yassir
Arafat was the only democratically-elected Arab president.

Aceh
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11. (C) The Ambassador expressed our sympathies to the nation
of Finland and to the bereaved families over the deaths of
Finnish citizens in the tsunami disaster. The DCM added that
Embassy Helsinki will continue to support in any way we can
former President Ahtisaari's efforts to bring together the
Indonesian government and GAM rebels. Tuomioja thanked us
for U.S. condolences and disaster assistance on the ground.
As far as the first round of GoI/GAM talks, his sense was
that "there were more problems on the Indonesian government
side" than with the GAM, but at any rate it is a good sign
that the talks will continue.

EU China Arms Embargo
--------------


12. (C) The Ambassador referred to the Administration's
strong views about the prospect that the EU will lift the
China arms embargo. Tuomioja said Finland supports lifting
the embargo because "conditions have changed." For Finland
the key point is that this is a chance to strengthen the Code
of Conduct and make it legally binding: "We see (the current
discussion within the Union) as an opportunity to get EU
decisions that would otherwise take a long time." The
embargo, Tuomioja said, "is either on or off. And when it's
on, we have no leverage." He maintained that the Code of
Conduct would provide leverage with the Chinese on each
individual item. Under Secretary Lyra asserted that the
Finns see the Code of Conduct as more effective in
controlling the kinds of non-weapon, dual-use technology the
Chinese are most apt to want.


13. (C) The DCM asked whether there is EU unanimity to lift
the embargo. Tuomioja said yes, in principle, but the
outstanding issues are the timetable, revising the Code of
Conduct, and consulting with the United States, "because we
don't want any misunderstanding."


14. (C) The Ambassador said the EU should make no mistake:
the United States opposes lifting the embargo. It would send
the wrong signal at the wrong time as regards China's human
rights record. The DCM asked what Finland is hearing from
Chinese dissidents about the embargo. The FM answered
obliquely, saying that the Chinese would never accept
explicit linkage between lifting the embargo and improvement
in human rights, but understand that the linkage is there.
He added that in his own most recent visit to Beijing, he had
pressed the question of human rights with (then Vice FM) Li
Zhaoxing. The latter launched into a tirade against human
rights NGOs, charging that they wished to undermine the
Chinese government. Tuomioja said he had replied that Li
misread the NGOs' position -- to which Tuomioja could attest
first-hand, since he is a member of Amnesty International.
This reply, he said, seemed to leave the minister nonplussed.

Afghanistan
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15. (C) The Ambassador thanked Finland for its ongoing
contributions to rebuilding civil society in Afghanistan, and
to peacekeeping in KOSOVO. Tuomioja replied that the Finns
recognize Afghanistan -- like KOSOVO -- is a long-term
commitment, without a pre-set timetable. Things do seem to
be getting better, he said: conditions in Afghanistan,
including the drug situation, have improved even in
comparison with six months ago.


16. (C) Tuomioja told us that he will be traveling to
Afghanistan himself soon, a trip that has been scheduled and
postponed several times in the past. The Ambassador said he
hoped the FM would be able to meet with Ambassador Khalilzad
while in Kabul. Under Secretary Lyra said that unfortunately
Ambassador Khalilzad had been away from the city during
Lyra's own visit to Kabul last May. Lyra said he had heard a
lot about the Ambassador: "He is an impressive figure, and
has a specific background ideal for his position."

EU Defense Cooperation
--------------


17. (C) The Ambassador referred to domestic debate over
whether Finland should expand its peacekeeping legislation --
which currently allows the GoF to contribute only to forces
with a UN or OSCE mandate -- to include missions with an EU
mandate. (Note: President Halonen, who, like Tuomioja, comes
from the left wing of the SDP, has expressed reservations
about such an expansion, one of the few instances in which
she has parted company with the Center/SDP governing
coalition.) Tuomioja said that Finland plans to contribute
to two battle groups, and is looking at several possible
changes to the legislation, which may be renamed the "crisis
management" law. For one thing, the Finnish decision-making
process must be streamlined, since it involves the President,
the GoF, and Parliament, and occasions may arise when
decisions have to be taken swiftly. The GoF does favor
allowing for an EU mandate, he said: as a general rule, the
battle groups should be deployed on a UN mandate, but there
may be occasions when that is not possible yet action is
called for. Tuomioja maintained, however, that this question
of an EU mandate is not a major issue, since no EU operation
would be undertaken without consensus within the Union.

Rogers Child Custody Case
--------------


18. (SBU) The Ambassador thanked the Minister for the MFA's
assistance in resolving the child custody case of the
dual-national Rogers children, who are now back in the United
States with their father, in accordance with the terms of the
Hague Convention. Tuomioja, in a reference to the domestic
controversy over the case within Finland, said, "It wasn't an
easy thing." Finland has an independent judiciary, he said,
but that judiciary obeys international law. The FM did note
that the Rogers case has reverted to a U.S. court, and said
he hoped the children's Finnish mother would have a chance to
put her case before that court.

Intellectual Property Rights
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19. (SBU) The Ambassador said he had had a useful
conversation with Minister of Social Affairs and Health
Sinikka Monkare on the question of pharmaceutical patent
protection. Events seem to be moving in the right direction.
The chairmen of both Merck and Pfizer have told the
Ambassador that they respect Finnish brainpower, and would
like to invest more in R&D in Finland, were there adequate
patent protection. It would help Finland, he added, to be
seen as a leader in the biotechnology industry. The DCM
noted that only three EU members -- Portugal, Austria, and
Finland -- are not in line with EU standards on length of
patent protection. The FM replied that he was happy this
matter hasn't landed on his desk, but he recognized its
importance -- "We've invested a lot of public money in R&D
financing."

The Environment
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20. (U) The Ambassador thanked the FM for Finland's vote to
extend the methyl bromide convention. The U.S., said the
Ambassador, is an environmentally conscious nation, and even
if it is not possible for the U.S. to sign the Kyoto
Protocol, he hoped some future agreement can be crafted that
is acceptable to all sides. The Minister (who had said much
the same thing to Under Secretary Dobriansky during her
October, 2002 visit to Helsinki) acknowledged this without
comment.

MACK