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05HANOI742
2005-03-29 08:35:00
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Embassy Hanoi
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Millenium Science Initiative Delegation Urges

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SUBJECT: Millenium Science Initiative Delegation Urges
Cooperation at Meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Khiem


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SUBJECT: Millenium Science Initiative Delegation Urges
Cooperation at Meeting with Deputy Prime Minister Khiem



1. Summary: The DCM accompanied a visiting delegation of
prominent American scientists to call on Deputy Prime
Minister Pham Gia Khiem March 23 regarding establishing
Centers for Excellence under the Millenium Science
Initiative (MSI) in Vietnam. The delegation, led by Dr.
Harold Varmus, Nobel laureate and president of the Memorial
Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City, emphasized
the need for such centers to renew Vietnam's focus on the
basic sciences, provide a home to returning researchers and
help Vietnam's scientists engage more deeply with the
international scientific community. The delegation called
for the GVN to create an interagency secretariat to
administer the MSI, which would report directly to the Prime
Minister. End Summary.


2. On March 23, a delegation of American scientists led by
Dr. Harold Varmus of the Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center and
1989 Nobel laureate in medicine for his work on the cellular
origins of the oncogene of a chicken retrovirus, met with
Deputy Prime Minister Pham Gia Khiem. The DCM and Assistant
Public Affairs Officer accompanied Varmus and the delegation
to the meeting with the DPM. The delegation spent a week
visiting fifteen universities and research institutes
throughout Vietnam. Also joining the delegation were Dr.
Chung Kim, physics professor at Johns Hopkins University;
Dr. John Hopcroft, Computer Science Professor at Cornell
University; Ms. Arlen Hastings, Executive Director of the
Science Initiative Group (SIG); Mr. Frank Jao, newly
appointed chairman of the Vietnam Education Foundation; Dr.
Cuong Nguyen, Engineering Dean at Catholic University; and
Dr. Vo Van Toi, biomedical engineering professor at Tufts
University.


3. Varmus thanked the Ministry of Science and Technology
(MOST) for its support of the delegation's visit and noted
that Vietnam is now at a time in its development of science
and technology (S&T) infrastructure where it would be

appropriate to broaden its activities and place more
emphasis on the basic underlying sciences instead of
narrowly focusing on applied science. During the
delegation's visit to major research institutions in Vietnam
over the previous five days, Varmus reported that without
exception, the scientists they had met are energetic and
enthusiastic, but they are currently operating under a rigid
directive to apply their research purely for practical
benefit. The research of importing, replicating and applying
technologies created abroad limits technological innovation
and prevents the nurturing of basic research underpinning
the applications, Varmus argued.


4. The MSI is small in scale, but has the potential to have
a disproportionately large impact on the development of
science, Varmus said. It would do so by introducing
international best practices in scientific research
including a transparent, competitive selection process
involving international peer review and thereby setting high
standards for scientific excellence in Vietnam, he
explained.


5. He also emphasized that the long-term sustainability of
Vietnamese R&D enterprises will depend on strengthening
science across the basic-applied spectrum. Areas of focus
in the MSI include the life sciences, information sciences,
pure and applied mathematics and materials sciences. The
MSI's Centers of Excellence could become strong research and
training grounds for Vietnamese scientists, with funding
coming from the World Bank, the Ford Foundation and other
multinational organizations. Varmus also called for the
creation of an interagency secretariat in Vietnam to
administer the MSI and report directly to the Prime
Minister, thereby raising the project's visibility to the
highest levels.


6. The DCM echoed Varmus' points, underscoring the
Ambassador's and the entire country team's support for this
project. He also said that the concept fits into the broad
goals of strengthening bilateral relations, especially in
the areas of education, science and health.


7. The DPM responded that S&T is of great interest to the
GVN and he understands the need to put more emphasis on the
fundamental sciences. He went on to admit that the basic
sciences have been ignored to some extent, but that applied
science is still a high priority. He also acknowledged that
Vietnam's inadequate attention to the basic sciences over
the past thirty years has been counterproductive, decreasing
innovation and creativity. However, he countered that the
GVN has taken several solid steps to correct these
tendencies, including strengthening two national research
centers, creating two multidisciplinary national
universities in Hanoi and HCMC and establishing a Science
Fund for basic sciences. The DPM expressed his strong
support for the Centers for Excellence because they would
pool resources to train new talent in the sciences as well
as create an environment in which Vietnamese scientists
would be able to link up with scientists around the world.
He agreed that the current working group at MOST would fully
cooperate on this project.


8. Varmus responded that the MSI has experiences in many
countries and the delegation would continue to consult with
MOST officials on a plan appropriate to Vietnam's
conditions. He reemphasized the importance of investing in
the basic sciences and sought the DPM and PM's full-fledged
support. He and other delegation members stressed that
Vietnamese scientists and researchers currently in the U.S.
and Europe need to bring their talents back to Vietnam and
the Centers of Excellence could be one avenue where they can
continue to thrive upon their return. VEF graduates
currently in the U.S. could also be included into the matrix
of these centers.


9. Next steps: The SIG Team and MOST Core Team will work
together to draft a proposal for Centers of Excellence in
S&T in Vietnam. This proposal will then be submitted by July
2005 to the Prime Minister for approval, after which MOST
can apply to the World Bank for funding under the MSI model.


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