FRAN TOWNSEND'S JUNE 2, 2005 MEETINGS IN QATAR

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SUBJECT: FRAN TOWNSEND'S JUNE 2, 2005 MEETINGS IN QATAR


Classified By: Ambassador Chase Untermeyer for reasons 1.4 (A) and (B)


1. (S) Summary: Frances (Fran) Townsend, Assistant to the
President and Advisor on Homeland Security, visited Doha for
a few hours on Thursday, 2 June 2005. In her meetings with
Sheikh Tamim the Heir Apparent, with the Amir (in which
Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim sat in),and finally
with the Qatar State Security Chief Nasser Al-Ali and
Minister of State for the Interior Sheikh Abdullah, Ms
Townsend carried two main messages from the President: (1)
Al Jazeera remains a concern, but "the way forward" is to
focus on counter-terrorism issues. She held out the prospect
of warmer bilateral relations if Qatar gave her
"deliverables" in the form of help with American citizens of
Islamist leanings resident in Doha. In this she appears to
have been totally successful, with swift, firm pledges from
the Amir and Heir Apparent; and (2) Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen)
needs Qatar,s full economic and political support. The Amir
and Heir Apparent likewise agreed to provide this help. End
Summary.

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Heir Apparent Sheikh Tamim
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2. (S) Ms. Townsend began the meeting by saying, "Al Jazeera
is a perennial issue with us. I don,t want to take your time
to discuss that. A good way forward is to focus on the
counter-terrorism (CT) relationship." She said that Qatar
has not provided the US with interrogation reports from the
19 March bombing of the Doha Players theater and could do so.
She also mentioned the presence in Qatar of a number of US
citizens of Islamist leanings, especially Dwight Theodore
Thompson (Abdur Rauf Shakir),an AmCit convicted in 1988 of
felony weapons charges in Kings County, New York, who fled
the US prior to being sentenced in absentia to 3 to 7 years
in prison. Ms Townsend said that Qatar could help US CT
efforts by turning Thompson over to US custody. "Because of
the President,s concern," she said, "my ability to go back
with real deliverables, things we can see, gives me the
opportunity to be your advocate with him and to warm the
relationship."


3. (S) Sheikh Tamim swiftly concurred with Townsend,s
request, saying, "I agree with you. It,s common sense that
if they are American citizens and their country wants them,
we can do it. I have no problem with that. It will be done."
He had to repeat his decision, however, when his staff
presented diplomatic and bureaucratic objections,
specifically that no extradition treaty exists with the US.
Ms Townsend said that she worked on extradition issues for
the Justice Department and knows that "no treaty is required;
it is not a violation of international law." She said the US
could file a "red notice" request with Interpol but that
these could take as long as two months, during which time the
suspect could flee. "We can,t wait," she concluded. "If
these people commit a terrorist attack while we,re
negotiating an agreement, it will be devastating to the
relationship." The Heir Apparent,s staff promised to form a
committee to work with RMAS and FBI officers at Embassy Doha
over the next "two weeks" to try to find a way to get
Thompson into US custody, while assuaging Qatari legal
niceties.


4. (S) On Palestine, Townsend said, "It is important for us
all that Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas) succeed. Right now, Fatah
is weak, and every dollar that goes to Hamas makes it less
likely that he will succeed." She said there is a Hamas
office in Doha and asked that it be closed. Khalid
al-Misnad, the Heir Apparent,s chief of staff (and maternal
uncle) said there is no formal Hamas "office" but that there
have been four Hamas leaders who lived in Doha at one time.
Sheikh Tamim said, "We will do whatever we can to help Abu
Mazen succeed. We will help him. I have no problem with that.
When things are settled in Palestine, all will calm down. But
you have to push the Israeli side."


5. (S) The rest of meeting largely dealt with the Qataris,
need for specialized CT training and the RMAS need for access
to information arising from the 19 March bombing
investigation. The day after the bombing, Sheikh Tamim
promised the Ambassador and RMAS Chief that the US would get
everything the investigation uncovered. But the RMAS Chief
noted that Qatari Security Service (QSS) in recent weeks had
not provided any updates, nor had it responded to requests
for information, making it difficult for RMAS and the FBI to
fully follow up on possible leads in the US. To the chief of
the QSS, Nasser al-Ali, the Heir Apparent said, "Nasser,
please: If there,s anything, give it to them." Believe me,
we don,t want to hold back. Anything they ask, give it."

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Meeting with the Amir
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6.(C) The Amir met with Ms. Townsend, accompanied by the
Foreign Minister and First Deputy Prime Minister, Sheikh
Hamad bin Jassim Al Thani; Sheikha Miyyasa, the Amir's
daughter and recent Duke graduate; and Khalid al-Mansouri,
Director of European and American Affairs at the MFA. Ms
Townsend was accompanied by Ambassador Untermeyer, NSC
Counterterrorism Director, and P/E Chief (notetaker). The
meeting was cordial; Ms. Townsend noted that Sheikha Miyassa
was the only woman in any official meeting on her trip
through the region.

7.(S) Townsend thanked the Amir on behalf of the president
for hosting U.S. forces in Qatar. She said that in her
previous meeting with the Heir Apparent, Sheikh Tamim, she
had examined ways to work more closely together on
counterterrorism issues. She informed the Amir that in that
meeting she had discussed the presence in Qatar of American
citizens connected to the March 19 terrorist attack in Doha.
The president wants to see "strong and quick" actions, she
said, adding that it takes leadership to move quickly in
these matters. She said the U.S. is willing to cooperate from
its side and provide training to Qatari security forces.

8.(S) The Amir characterized Qatari security services as
"changing" after the March 19 attack. He noted that Qatar has
had problems on the intelligence-gathering component of
security, and that the security forces need training. He said
that with adequate training, Qatar could have stopped the May
19 attacker. The Qataris had "notes" on the individual from
four or five years ago and had "chased" him for a while but
had ended the pursuit. After the attack, he said the GOQ was
in shock for a number of hours before recognizing that they
had to face the reality of what had happened.

9.(S) Townsend said that Qatar was wise to respond to the
attack as a way to strengthen its security. She emphasized
that training resources are limited, and that the US provides
training based on the level of cooperation with a given
security service. She expressed the hope and some optimism
that the US could provide training and work more closely with
Qatar, but that there were responsibilities on both sides.

10.(S) Townsend returned to the critical subject of
cooperation on turning over US fugitives in Qatar to US
custody, reminding the Amir that the March 19 attack was
potentially linked to American citizens. Three things could
result, she said, "all of them bad": An attack on U.S. forces
in Qatar; an attack on allies in Europe; or an infiltration
of the U.S. homeland by these dangerous individuals, where it
would be harder to pursue them.

11.(S) Townsend briefed the Amir on the President's recent
meeting with Abu Mazen in Washington. The meeting was warm,
and Abu Mazen felt stronger after his first White House
visit. She said there was an opportunity for
Israeli-Palestinian peace, but the Palestinian Authority (PA)
remains weak. The PA needs to engage in good discussions with
the Israelis and needs to show progress in developing its
security forces. Hamas is a threat to the PA, and "every
dollar donated to it undermines Abu Mazen," she said, calling
for Qatari help on counterterrorism finance.

12.(S) The Amir said that Qatar will support Abu Mazen, but
that delaying the Palestinian elections was a mistake. Steps
toward democracy will help the region change. "I had a hard
time with (Hamas leader) Khalid Meshaal," to push him toward
a democratic system. The Amir advised that Abu Mazen "focus
on the West Bank" because the Palestinian mentality there is
different.

13.(S) The Amir called Iran the biggest problem for the
region. He has engaged Gulf leaders on the issue, but he said
most view it only in terms of distancing their countries from
any American action against Iran. The Amir noted that the
issue is much deeper, because any action would force a change
in Gulf states' relations with their large neighbor.
Townsend said that Iran's foreign policy is to use Hizbollah
and terrorism as a tool, and this is unacceptable. Hizbullah
gets more money from Iran than any other source. She called
on Qatar and regional allies to make public statements
against such policies: "You have more credibility in the
region."

14.(S) The Amir ended the meeting voicing the hope that the
U.S. would not "retreat" from its support of democracy in the
region. "People have hope now," he said. Townsend assured him
that the president will not waiver from his policy of
spreading democracy.


15. (S) "I believe with all my heart that the will (by Qatar)
is there. I believe we can improve the relationship. If the
President sees progress on CT, he will respond in a positive
way. There are always issues to work on. This is the most
important right now. I am sure I will be back to say thank
you!"


16. (U) This message has not been cleared by Fran Townsend.
UNTERMEYER