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05BANGKOK7732
2005-12-19 09:46:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Bangkok
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THAKSIN ALLY PAINTS GLOOMY PICTURE OF PM'S STANDING

Tags:  PGOV TH TRT 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 007732 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/15/2015
TAGS: PGOV TH TRT
SUBJECT: THAKSIN ALLY PAINTS GLOOMY PICTURE OF PM'S STANDING

REF: A. BANGKOK 07529 (LUNCH WITH THAKSIN)

B. BANGKOK 07317 (COURT VICTORIES FOR
RABBLE-ROUSING JOURNALIST SONDHI)

C. BANGKOK 06978 (FORMER PRIME MINISTER ANAND
CRITICIZES SURAKIART RUN FOR UN
SECRETARY GENERAL POST)

Classified By: Ambassador Ralph L. Boyce, reasons 1.4 (b) (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 007732

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/15/2015
TAGS: PGOV TH TRT
SUBJECT: THAKSIN ALLY PAINTS GLOOMY PICTURE OF PM'S STANDING

REF: A. BANGKOK 07529 (LUNCH WITH THAKSIN)

B. BANGKOK 07317 (COURT VICTORIES FOR
RABBLE-ROUSING JOURNALIST SONDHI)

C. BANGKOK 06978 (FORMER PRIME MINISTER ANAND
CRITICIZES SURAKIART RUN FOR UN
SECRETARY GENERAL POST)

Classified By: Ambassador Ralph L. Boyce, reasons 1.4 (b) (d)


1. (C) Summary and Introduction: I met with Deputy Prime
Minister Surakiart Sathirathai on December 16, expecting to
hear another campaign speech from the would-be UN Secretary
General (ref C). Instead, Surakiart unexpectedly delivered a
downbeat analysis of Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's
standing in the wake of the King's speech (ref A). Surakiart
contradicted Thaksin's rosy view of the speech completely,
reinforcing the view that the palace remains unhappy with the
PM. Surakiart recognized that Thai Rak Thai (TRT) is still
strong, particularly in the countryside, but repeated the
adage that "Prime Ministers are elected in the countryside
but deposed in Bangkok." He said that rabble-rousing
journalist/businessman Sondhi Limthongkhul (ref B) is not the
man to lead a successful opposition to Thaksin, but he may
continue to plague TRT with his (accurate) revelations of
government corruption. Although Surakiart is an opportunist
who has hitched his wagon to Thaksin's star, he is also a
member of the Bangkok elite, tied into the palace through his
wife, the daughter of the King's former principal private
secretary and current Privy Counsellor. His personal

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interests give him a keen concern for the PM's fortunes. End
Summary and Introduction.


2. (C) At the very outset of our meeting, Deputy Prime
Minister Surakiart dismissed Thaksin's contention that the
King and the PM had discussed the issues in the King's
December 4 speech beforehand and reached an understanding.
Surakiart explained that, if the King thought that Thaksin
would listen to his private advice, then he would have given
it privately. The King had 60 years of experience dealing
with prime ministers, and he knew how to handle them. The
problem was that Thaksin simply doesn't listen, so the King
felt compelled to make his points in a public, albeit
typically veiled way. Surakiart also refuted Thaksin's claim
that the Queen urged the PM to meet the King regularly to

"cheer him up," maintaining that the Queen was also no fan of
Thaksin. Overall, Surakiart's view tallied with what we've
heard from other sources, that the palace, including the
King, still has issues with the Prime Minister. Surakiart
leaned toward the view that Thaksin had convinced himself
that this was not so, and was just refusing to acknowledge
the signs to the contrary.


3. (C) I pointed out that Thaksin and TRT still have strong
support, especially in the countryside. I noted also that
the general populace were probably only dimly aware, if at
all, of tensions between the beloved monarch and the popular
PM, and did not see any need to choose between them.
Surakiart acknowledged this, and added that TRT is the first
political party to have "two legs" -- support both upcountry
and in Bangkok. Nevertheless, Surakiart assessed that the
Bangkok elite were now really engaged in opposing Thaksin.
He cited the saying, "Prime Ministers are elected in the
countryside but deposed in Bangkok," to illustrate the
dangers that this development posed for Thaksin.


4. (C) Surakiart said that the steady opposition to the PM
demonstrated by the crowds who turn out to hear Sondhi each
week was significant, but that Sondhi himself was not the man
to spearhead a successful campaign against Thaksin. However,
the King's speech had implicitly absolved Sondhi of any
wrongdoing, and forced the PM to drop the lawsuits against
him. Sondhi would have to tone down one of him most saleable
themes -- defending the "King's prerogatives" -- but he was
doing a good business in exposing and highlighting corruption
scandals. According to Surakiart, it was clear that Sondhi
had excellent sources for these stories, since "everything
he's said is true." Given the high levels of corruption in
the government, this could be a deep well to draw from, and
there was apparently no shortage of sources to dish dirt on
the government. For the next few weeks, Surakiart
predicted, political activity would quiet down somewhat as
people would be busy with vacations and the new year holiday,
but things might pick up around mid-January. (Note: Sondhi
announced last Friday that he was taking a break and would be
back in mid-January. End note.)

Comment
--------------


5. (C) Surakiart's insistent, unequivocal contradiction of
Thaksin's upbeat claims about his relationship with the
palace was striking. Surakiart is not above manipulation,
and his comments need to be taken with the proverbial grain
of salt. But their basic thrust is consistent with other
soundings we're detecting. Surakiart has the contacts to
speak with authority about both the palace and TRT. Like many
other prognostications of trouble for Thaksin, Surakiart's
account was short on details of where Thaksin, with his 375
seat parliamentary majority, could be vulnerable. However,
TRT is not a political party unified around a set of
principles; it is a loose confederation held together by
networks of favor and self-interest. There continue to be
rumors that some of the marginalized factions within the
party are disgruntled and looking for options, but no real
indications to date of serious or significant defections from
TRT. Still Surakiart's final question shows that even some
of the TRT stalwarts are worried. If Thaksin goes down, he
asked, "how will it affect my bid to be UN Secretary
General?"
BOYCE