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05BANGKOK6798
2005-10-28 12:10:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Bangkok
Cable title:  

OPPOSITION POLITICIAN PESSIMISTIC ON SOUTH, PARTY

Tags:  PGOV PHUM TH 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 006798 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL:10/26/2015
TAGS: PGOV PHUM TH
SUBJECT: OPPOSITION POLITICIAN PESSIMISTIC ON SOUTH, PARTY
PROSPECTS

REF: BANGKOK 6240

CLASSIFIED BY POLITICAL COUNSELOR SUSAN M. SUTTON, reason
1.4 (b) (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 006798

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL:10/26/2015
TAGS: PGOV PHUM TH
SUBJECT: OPPOSITION POLITICIAN PESSIMISTIC ON SOUTH, PARTY
PROSPECTS

REF: BANGKOK 6240

CLASSIFIED BY POLITICAL COUNSELOR SUSAN M. SUTTON, reason
1.4 (b) (d)


1. (C) Summary: A Democrat party MP gave downbeat
assessments of his party's short term prospects, and of the
security situation in the troubled South. The MP warned
that the current government would be unable to resolve the
problems in the South because it had completely lost the
trust of the people. Meanwhile, the PM was not too
concerned, as his nationalist rhetoric on the issue was
actually winning him support around the country. The
Democrat party must rebuild from the grass roots, in the
MP's view, and cannot rely on a "people power" type revolt
to unseat the prime minister and his powerful Thai Rak Thai
party. His view of the South is overly pessmistic, we
believe, but he is probably right about his own party's
weakness in the face of a still-strong TRT. End summary.

Prospects for the South -- bad
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2. (C) Polcouns met with Sukhumbrand
Paribatra, a party list MP and Democrat Party
(DP) leader. Sukhumbrand echoed the concerns
of other DP interlocutors in assessing the
situation in the South. He respected the
members of the National Reconciliation
Commission (NRC) but doubted whether their work
could have much impact. At this point, he
said, it won't help even if the government
comes up with a good solution to respond to the
core problems in the South. The government
itself is the problem, and more specifically
the Prime Minister. The people in the South
have no faith in the government or PM anymore
and will not trust anything they do.


3. (C) Further, Thaksin has little incentive
to make concessions that might help quiet the
problems in the South. Thaksin's nationalist
rhetoric is still popular with the people in
the rest of the country. "For every one enemy
he makes in the South, he gets ten supporters,"
Sukhumbrand claimed. Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai
(TRT) party is prepared to concede the South to
the opposition. "What does it matter that he
loses 40-50 MPs from the South, if he wins
everywhere else in the country?" Sukhumbrand
asked.

Prospects for the opposition -- bad
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4. (C) Polcouns asked what the Democrat Party

strategy would be for the Senate elections next
year. "Shall I tell you honestly? We will get
on our knees and pray." Sukhumbrand said. He
expected that TRT would "use state power" and
their control over the media so effectively
that the DP and other opposition parties would
not have a chance. DP was also to blame; for
many years it had been "coasting," certain that
it would muster enough seats to have a role in
any coalition government. The dramatic losses
in 2001 and this year had shaken up the party,
and now they would have to rebuild. The new
party leader, Abhisit Vejjajiva, had told the
party that it must now compete to win, not just
to be part of a coalition.


5. (C) In the by-elections on October 30, the
opposition could only hope to gain one or two
seats. It had hoped to win three of the four
contests, reaching 125 seats in the Parliament;
this is the number needed to initiate censure
and impeachment motions. Sukhumbrand did not
expect to succeed. The opposition would take
the seat in Satun in the South, which TRT had
decided not to contest (unless low turn-out
rendered the election void). The opposition
had a chance Phichit, which has been hotly
contested . In Uthai Thani, "all that matters
is money" and TRT has more of it. In Singburi,
the opposition candidate has not maintained
good contact with his constituency, and so is
not expected to do well.


6. (C) Polcouns asked about the impact of the
Auditor-General scandal (reftel) and the
efforts by opposition groups to gin up
widespread public discontent and anti-
government demonstrations over the issue.
Sukhumbrand discounted the effect of the
scandal. "It's too complicated," he said, "I
had to have it explained to me twice."
(Comment: us, too. end comment.) If the public
does rise up against the government, it would
probably be over some simple issue that no one
can now predict, like the death of a family
from bird flu. He drew a parallel with the
student demonstrations of the past, which had
grown out of narrow grievances.

Comment
--------------


7. (C) Sukhumbrand gave a more realistic
assessment of the political situation than we
have heard from many other opposition and civil
society figures. His view that the party
cannot count on public unrest and "people
power" revolt against Thaksin is probably
unwelcome among many of his colleagues, who
would like to avoid the long, hard job of
building grassroots support around the country.
His assessment of the South may be too grim, in
our view. We don't think that it is yet too
late for good government policies effectively
implemented to improve the conditions in the
South. Unfortunately, the situation might
reach that point if the government doesn't work
more effectively soon.

BOYCE