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05BANGKOK2261
2005-03-30 12:00:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Bangkok
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THAILAND: AMBASSADOR HILL'S MEETING WITH

Tags:  PREL PHUM TH BM BURMA ASEAN ARF NRC 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 002261 

SIPDIS

SEOUL FOR AMBASSADOR HILL. DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/BCLTV. HQ
USPACOM FOR FPA (HUSO)

E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/30/2015
TAGS: PREL PHUM TH BM BURMA ASEAN ARF NRC
SUBJECT: THAILAND: AMBASSADOR HILL'S MEETING WITH
OPPOSITION MP SURIN PITSUWAN


Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission, Alex A. Arvizu, Reason: 1.4 (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 002261

SIPDIS

SEOUL FOR AMBASSADOR HILL. DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/BCLTV. HQ
USPACOM FOR FPA (HUSO)

E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/30/2015
TAGS: PREL PHUM TH BM BURMA ASEAN ARF NRC
SUBJECT: THAILAND: AMBASSADOR HILL'S MEETING WITH
OPPOSITION MP SURIN PITSUWAN


Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission, Alex A. Arvizu, Reason: 1.4 (d)


1. (C) Summary: A/S Designate for East Asia and Pacific and
U.S. Ambassador to Korea Christopher Hill met with opposition
Democrat Party (DP) Deputy Leader and former Foreign Minister
Dr. Surin Pitsuwan on March 29. Surin urged the U.S. to
continue to pressure Thailand and ASEAN partners to seek
democratic reform in Burma by withholding the ASEAN
chairmanship from the SPDC in 2006. He stated that the ASEAN
Regional Forum (ARF) should become more than just a
discussion group, and suggested appointment of an ARF
"special envoy" for the Korean peninsula. Surin opined that
the new National Reconciliation Commission (NRC),chaired by
former Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun, might prove to be
more than Prime Minister Thaksin bargained for. End Summary.


2. (U) U.S. Ambassador to Korea Christopher Hill, the A/S
Designate for EAP, Ambassador Boyce and Poloffs from Embassy
Seoul and Bangkok met with opposition DP Party Leader Dr.
Surin Pitsuwan, a former foreign minister in the Chuan
Leekpai administration. The veteran Muslim MP recalled how
former Secretary of State Colin Powell, at the ARF meeting in
Phnom Penh in June 2003, had set the right tone for U.S.
relations in Southeast Asia with the statement that although
the fight against terror must be made, the U.S. must uphold
human rights at the same time. Surin said that he had
recently spoken with some Thai economists who were surprised
at the recent U.S. Human Rights Report chapter on Thailand.
Surin's contacts were under the (obviously uninformed)
impression that the US was only concerned about the war on
terror and other security issues and no longer interested in
human rights.

KEEP THE PRESSURE ON BURMA


3. (C) Surin stated that "Southeast Asia is coming back" in
the area of human rights, citing recent democratic changes in
Indonesia. He commented that the current Thai government has

an "authoritarian bent" under Prime Minister Thaksin. He
lamented being in the opposition and the magnitude of his
party's defeat in the recent national elections, but said
that the DP and other opposition parties will continue to
debate the government, albeit with a weaker voice. He
stressed that, because of the governing Thai Rak Thai (TRT)
party's dominance in Parliament, U.S. dialogue with the RTG,
especially via ASEAN, is vital. On Burma, Surin said he
thought that U.S. approaches to ASEAN to "pressure" the SPDC
to skip their slated 2006 chairmanship would meet with a
favorable response at this time. He suggested that one
compromise would be to allow the SPDC to host some ASEAN
meetings, but not serve as chair. Surin thought that ASEAN
was undertaking a "real evaluation" of the issue. The EU and
Australia were "coming around" to this point of view and,
with help from the US, Japan might as well. Ambassador Boyce
mentioned his recent meeting with Japanese Deputy Foreign
Minister Tanaka and Tanaka's recent meeting with Burmese
Prime Minister Soe Win (Septel).

ARF ROLE IN KOREAN PENINSULA?


4. (C) Surin raised the issue of the ASEAN Regional Forum
(ARF) and its need to play a more meaningful role in the
region. He suggested that an ARF "special envoy" to the
Korean peninsula be appointed, not as a mediator, but as a
"messenger" -- one who could gather information and share it
among the members of the six-party talks. Ambassador Hill
said he would raise this idea in Washington once he takes up
his new post.

SOUTHERN THAILAND


5. (U) On continuing violence in the three southernmost
provinces of Thailand, Surin commented that the south has
been a problem for many previous governments. The Thaksin
government had seriously miscalculated by dismantling
previous successful security structures shortly after it
assumed power in 2001, Surin said. This led to a crisis in
human rights violations and in the rule of law as the
government tried to quell rising violence. Surin noted not
only the thousands of suspected extrajudicial killings
nationwide in 2003 during the government's anti-narcotics
campaign -- which he said some put as high as 3,000 -- but
claimed that he has heard of thousands of disappeared or
"kidnapped" Muslim "suspects" in the South. (Comment: These
numbers, in both cases, strike us as exaggerated. End
Comment.)

EDUCATION REFORM, THE NRC AND COUNTERING THAKSIN'S WEEKLY
RADIO ADDRESS

6. (U) On other topics, Surin discussed the need for
education reform in Muslim schools (pondoks or madrasas). In
most areas of the far south, he said, the traditional Muslim
curriculum was taught in the morning, while the "modern"
curriculum was left for the afternoons, resulting in a
"half-baked" education that left the youth entering the job
market with few skills or educational achievements. The
curricula in Thai, English, math, science and information
technology must be strengthened. Surin commented that the
composition of the newly formed National Reconciliation
Commission (NRC) was good, balanced and hopeful. He wondered
openly what the Commission will do with its 9-month mandate
and expressed his hope that recommendations can be passed
along quickly for action, and that meetings can be held as
events take place. Surin was pleased that Anand Panyarachun,
the highly respected former prime minister, was not afraid to
openly criticize Thaksin, noting Anand,s call for public
release of the reports of the Independent Commissions
investigating the incidents at the Krue Se mosque in April
2004 and at Tak Bai in October 2004. Surin noted that
"Thaksin may come to regret appointing Anand." He also
mentioned the worrisome trend toward concentration of
corporate and RTG control of the broadcast media and said
that DP opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva will propose an
equal air time "right of reply" to counter PM Thaksin,s
influential weekly Saturday radio address.


7. (U) Ambassador Hill did not have the opportunity to clear
on this message.
BOYCE