Identifier
Created
Classification
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05BAGHDAD6
2005-01-02 17:01:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Baghdad
Cable title:  

SHIA CLERIC SEPARATES RELIGION FROM POLITICS

Tags:  PGOV PHUM KDEM KISL IZ 
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R 021701Z JAN 05
FM AMEMBASSY BAGHDAD
TO SECSTATE WASHDC 3612
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REO HILLAH 0072
REO BASRAH 0068
REO MOSUL 0068
REO KIRKUK 0069
IRAQ COLLECTIVE
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/29/19
TAGS: PGOV PHUM KDEM KISL IZ
SUBJECT: SHIA CLERIC SEPARATES RELIGION FROM POLITICS

CLASSIFIED BY POLITICAL COUNSELOR ROBERT S. FORD FOR REASON 1.4
(D).

C O N F I D E N T I A L BAGHDAD 000006


E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/29/19
TAGS: PGOV PHUM KDEM KISL IZ
SUBJECT: SHIA CLERIC SEPARATES RELIGION FROM POLITICS

CLASSIFIED BY POLITICAL COUNSELOR ROBERT S. FORD FOR REASON 1.4
(D).


1. (C) Summary: We have met twice in the past two weeks with
Shia cleric Saayid Ayad Jamal Ad-Din who warns that the forces
of ideological and religious extremism will dominate the new
National Assembly without Coalition support to educated
moderates and liberals such as himself. He claimed that despite
his own personal plea to join with moderates, many
representatives to Muqtada Al-Sadr have now sided with the
United Iraqi Alliance and some 25 members are now on this list
tipping the balance even more for extreme elements of the Shia
community. While this cleric says religious parties won't fare
well in the Shia heartland, he himself seems more interested in
meeting Iraqi communities located in Britain and the U.S. This
is especially odd as he has personal stature as a cleric and
descendent of the prophet that would enable him to raise the
delicate issue of separating religion and politics in a way that
other liberal politicians cannot. End summary.


2. (C) Saayid Ayad shared with PolOff on December 21 his concern
that Iranian intervention is affecting Iraqi internal issues.
He suggested that Iran is backing major parties like Da'wa and
the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI),
providing millions of dollars for media coverage and public
influence. Ayad said he had received an invitation to go to
Iran to meet with Iranian leaders, but after seeing some of his
interviews on Al-Arabiyya TV attacking Ali Khamanei, the
Iranians withdrew their offer. Ayad went on to say that he has
spent many years overseas arguing for a secular Iraq. While
recognizing the sanctity of Islamic beliefs, he felt those
beliefs should be kept in the private realm, separate from
politics. Ayad said he hopes that with additional support, he
can convey this message to the Iraqi public who he believes
would welcome this with open arms.


3. (C) Ayad told PolOff that he has joined Iraqi National
Congress member Saad Saleh Jabor's Nation's Party list which has
67 names running for the National Assembly and about 17 names
for the Provincial Council in Karbala. Their hope is to capture
a maximum of 50 seats and no less than 20. According to Ayad,
the party is highly dependent on the overseas vote, as many of
its party members live in exile. Ayad hopes to appeal to
overseas Iraqis who want to see a new, democratic Iraq similar
to the western, largely democratic countries they are now living
in.


4. (C) According to Ayad, the United Iraqi Alliance list was
headed towards a significant disappointment in the elections
until they agreed to allow Muqtada Al-Sadr representatives to
join the list. Ayad believes that this decision was approved by
Ayatollah Sistani himself to bolster the list's popularity among
younger, less educated people. Ayad explained that most of the
25 names associated with Muqtada's following are relative
unknowns. Of these 25 names in the list, he said three are in
the first ten and ten names are in the first fifty. Ayad claims
he obtained this information from a trusted go-between working
with Muqtada Al-Sadr's camp and Mohammed Reda Al-Sistani's
office. To counter this effort, Ayad said he tried to recruit
several Muqtada followers to the Nation's Party, including
spokesperson Ali Semaysom. Semaysom reportedly turned down the
offer stating that he is not permitted to participate as a
religious figure himself.


5. (C) Comment: It is interesting to hear a cleric like Ayad
explain how he has attempted to lure radicals like Ali Semaysom
to his party with the intent of reducing the overall influence
of religion in politics. While he insists that religious
parties will not fare well in the Shia heartland (he comes from
Najaf himself),we have no indication he has gone to southern
Iraq to campaign. Instead, he told us on December 30 that he
wants to meet Iraqi communities in Britain and the U.S. In a
separate conversation December 30, Jamal Udeen stressed to us
that the United Iraqi Alliance list will promote religious
involvement in laws relating to personal and communal conduct as
well as national politics. He alleged there is more than
financial support binding Iran to the religious parties featured
on the Alliance candidate list. Jamal Udeen, in some ways,
would be the ideal liberal politician to raise the delicate
issue of separating religion from politics. As a cleric and
"sayyed" - a descendent of the prophet Mohammed - it would be
harder for Islamists to criticize him as irreligious. End
summary.


6. (U) Minimize considered.

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