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05BAGHDAD2606
2005-06-20 04:58:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Baghdad
Cable title:  

VICE PRESIDENT ABDEL MEHDI PONDERS THE

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BAGHDAD 002606 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/20/2025
TAGS: PGOV PREL PINR IZ
SUBJECT: VICE PRESIDENT ABDEL MEHDI PONDERS THE
CONSTITUTION AND HOW TO GIVE SHIA WHAT THE KURDS NOW HAVE

Classified By: Political Counselor Robert Ford for 1.4 (B) AND
(D).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BAGHDAD 002606

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/20/2025
TAGS: PGOV PREL PINR IZ
SUBJECT: VICE PRESIDENT ABDEL MEHDI PONDERS THE
CONSTITUTION AND HOW TO GIVE SHIA WHAT THE KURDS NOW HAVE

Classified By: Political Counselor Robert Ford for 1.4 (B) AND
(D).


1. (C) SUMMARY. During a June 18 farewell luncheon
with Charge Jeffrey, Vice President Adil Abdel Mahdi
noted that 13 of the 15 Sunni additional members to
the Constitutional Committee had been decided upon.
Abdel Mehdi opined that public ignorance among his
Shia constituency about federalism could be a
potential problem. Mehdi said the public must be
educated about the constitution. He said there is
some grumbling about the power and autonomy of
Kurdistan, but suggested that other Iraqi provinces
should form their own regions and achieve the same
degree of authority and responsibilities that the
Kurds now enjoy. Discussions are ongoing about
uniting nine southern provinces into one region, he
stated. Charge Jeffrey urged the Vice President to
counsel the Shia to be flexible in accepting proposed
Sunni Arab names for the constitution committee. He
said it would be important to delineate at the
authorities of the provincial and regional governments
as distinct from the national government in the new
constitution. He cautioned that setting up a large
Shia regional government in advance of the approval of
the constitution might complicate issues in Iraq.
Mehdi speculated that the future Government would have
a unicameral parliament elected from local
constituencies that would in turn choose the prime
minister while the presidency would be a ceremonial
post mainly. END SUMMARY.

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LOOKING AHEAD: FEDERALISM DEBATE
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2. (C) Vice President Adil Abdel Mehdi discussed the
constitution during a June 18 farewell luncheon with
Charge Jeffrey, saying the federalism discussion would
be difficult because of a lack of understanding of
this concept. Most of the debate is amongst the Shia
Coalition, said Abdel Mehdi, not amongst the Kurds.
While Iraqis accept the general principle of
federalism, he predicted that the discussions about
its implementation could be heated.

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GIVING SHIA WHAT THE KURDS ALREADY HAVE
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3. (C) Abdel Mehdi mused that even if the Shia

Coalition did not agree with the scope of local
authority the Kurdish Regional Government has
acquired, the Shia can do nothing about it. In the
end, he concluded, the Kurds were only taking what
should be theirs by right. He cautioned, however,
that many in the Shia community do not agree; there is
a sense that the Kurds have gone too far. Abdel Mehdi
said that, in a recent meeting of leaders of the
southern provinces, there was grumbling that the
current situation is unsupportable -- that it is
impossible to have one region with all the authority
and other provinces with none at all. Abdel Mehdi
stated that it would be impossible for the Kurds to
have one set of authorities in their region and the
Shia provinces to live with another. The Kurds'
authorities could not be reduced. Thus, the
authorities that the Shia locales have must be
increased to match those of the Kurds. He also agreed
it is important to delineate which assets and
responsibilities belong to the provinces and which
belong at the national level.

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SHIA MEGA-REGIONAL GOVERNMENT?
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4. (C) Abdel Mehdi said there is a discussion
underway about uniting the nine southern, Shia
provinces to form a single region. The Sunnis might
see the creation of a single southern region as a
stepping-stone to the region's annexation by Iran, but
Abdel Mehdi argued that such a larger regional entity
within Iraq would have enough weight to create a
strong national identity, prevent fragmentation, and
counter the current 'local' orientation that is so
pervasive. He recognized the problem that the Sunnis
would quickly try to form their own multi-province
region, raising tensions in Ninewa (which they share
mainly with the Kurds) and Diyala (shared by Sunnis,
Shia and Kurds). The Sunnis could be sure only of
Anbar and Salah ad Din provinces, and these are, Abdel
Mehdi admitted, resource poor. (NOTE: In a later
meeting, Vice President Ghazi al-Yawar told Charge
Jeffrey that the unification of these nine southern
provinces into a single region would be a catastrophe.
However, he suggested that moving the Shia towards a
grouping of nine provinces into three regional
governments would be acceptable. END NOTE.)

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PUBLIC EDUCATION: URGENT
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5. (C) Abdel Mehdi emphasized the need to educate the
public, in language that it understands, about
constitutional issues and expressed concern that there
is inadequate time for public outreach -- especially
if the Constitutional Committee takes several more
weeks before beginning its work. He welcomed word of
the resources available through USG funding to help
with public outreach.

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BRINGING SUNNI ARABS INTO PROCESS
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6. (C) Abdel Mehdi briefly discussed the 15 Sunnis to
be included on the Constitutional Committee, noting
that 13 of the 15 had been decided upon. He stressed
that it would be important for the Sunni selection
committee to avoid choices that would excessively
anger the Shia public. "We have to be able to defend
their choices with our own people," Abdel Mehdi
cautioned. He acknowledged that the political views
of those selected would likely be less important than
their personal histories.


7. (C) Charge Jeffrey emphasized the need to focus on
the constitution and use that framework for
determining how to form a regional structure. He
discouraged Abdel Mehdi from promoting the idea of
establishing a single Shia regional government prior
to the adoption of the constitution and national
elections. He also cautioned that natural resources,
especially oil revenues, likely would need to remain
under the national government's authority lest they
provoke struggles for territory. Charge Jeffrey also
urged Abdel Mehdi to counsel flexibility among the
Shia as they review the final list of Sunni Arabs
proposed for the constitution committee.

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SHAPE OF FUTURE GOVERNMENT - SPECULATION
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8. (C) Abdel Mehdi said he envisions the future
government to be one that is parliamentary in nature
and unicameral. It likely would be elected on the
basis of provincial or local districts. The
parliament should choose the prime minister, he
opined. He agreed with our observation that such a
system would give political parties more influence.
He added that Iraq likely would have a ceremonial
president whose authorities would be limited.


9. (U) REO HILLA, REO BASRA, REO MOSUL, and REO
KIRKUK, minimize considered.


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