Identifier
Created
Classification
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05ANKARA4873
2005-08-19 11:02:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Ankara
Cable title:  

TURKEY'S LATEST CONCERNS OVER KURDISH ASPIRATIONS

Tags:  PREL PGOV PTER MOPS TU IZ PKK 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ANKARA 004873 

SIPDIS

STATE FOR EUR/SE

E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/18/2015
TAGS: PREL PGOV PTER MOPS TU IZ PKK
SUBJECT: TURKEY'S LATEST CONCERNS OVER KURDISH ASPIRATIONS
IN IRAQ

REF: STATE 149796

Classified By: Charge d'Affaires Nancy McEldowney, reasons 1.4 (b) and
(d).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ANKARA 004873

SIPDIS

STATE FOR EUR/SE

E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/18/2015
TAGS: PREL PGOV PTER MOPS TU IZ PKK
SUBJECT: TURKEY'S LATEST CONCERNS OVER KURDISH ASPIRATIONS
IN IRAQ

REF: STATE 149796

Classified By: Charge d'Affaires Nancy McEldowney, reasons 1.4 (b) and
(d).


1. (C) SUMMARY: Deputy Undersecretary for Security Affairs
Nabi Sensoy called in Charge to raise Turkey's concerns over
supposed Iraqi Kurdish demands that their right to
self-determination be reflected in the new constitution,
including their right to hold a referendum on the issue in
eight years. Sensoy asked for US confirmation of this demand
and action to ensure such a right is not reflected in the
constitution. He also complained that PKK flags were flying
above buildings in Baghdad and Tuz Khurmatu and that the
Ocalan Cultural Center in Mosul is a PKK training facility.
Charge pressed for Turkey to raise such concerns directly
with the ITG. When presented by Charge with the Framework
for Action agreed up at the recent PKK Trilats (reftel),
Sensoy said that despite Turkey's unhappiness with the
difficult process of organizing the Trilats, Turkey was
pleased that they established a process for further action
and inquired about the status of bilateral efforts to block
PKK media and financing in Europe. END SUMMARY.

CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS
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2. (C) Kurdish Demands for self-determination: Deputy U/S
Sensoy opened by noting Turkey's pleasure with the current
TU/US bilateral cooperation on Iraq. Turkey is accelerating
its efforts to support the political process; meeting with
political, religious and ethnic leaders from Iraq - including
Aug. 15-18 meetings with Tal Afar leaders (septel). He
explained Turkey's concerns that Iraqi Kurds are demanding
their right to self-determination be reflected in the new
constitution, including the right to hold a referendum on
autonomy in eight years. If true, Sensoy said, this would
represent a serious violation of all UN resolutions on Iraq
designed to protect the country's territorial integrity and
would be an issue for the US, which has publicly stated the
importance of the country's territorial integrity. Sensoy
asked for confirmation of the Kurdish demands and for US

assistance to ensure that they were not reflected in the
constitution. Charge stated that US and Turkey were in
agreement on the territorial integrity issue and on the
importance of keeping the Kurds in the political process.


3. (C) Status of Kirkuk: Sensoy complained that the final
status of Kirkuk may not be resolved in the constitution but
left for resolution at a later date. In the meantime, Kurds
in Kirkuk are pressing for full and immediate implementation
of Article 58 of the TAL. According to Sensoy, Article 58
cannot be considered in isolation, but must be viewed in
concert with Article 53. Responding to Charge's comment that
it would be better to defer the Kirkuk issue than allow the
political process to disintegrate, Sensoy said Turkey
understands and agrees with this approach. The important
thing, Sensoy stated, is recognizing that this is a critical
issue.

PKK FLYING FLAGS/TRAINING TERRORISTS IN PLAIN VIEW
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4. (C) According to Sensoy, Turkish sources have identified
PKK flags flying in front of a building in the town of Tuz
Khurmatu south of Kirkuk and on a Kurdistan Democratic
Solutions Party (KDSP) building in Palestine Square in
central Baghdad. When asked, Sensoy admitted that he had not
asked the Turkish Embassy in Baghdad to verify the sightings
of these flags, but said he had seen a photo of one in a
newspaper and believed in the veracity of his information.
Sensoy added that Turkey has information that the Ocalan
Cultural Center located in the Mansour neighborhood of Mosul
is being used to give practical and ideological training to
PKK members. Sensoy expressed Turkey's distress about these
issues and asked for US assistance to have the flags removed
and to investigate the cultural center activities. Charge
agreed to take back the issue but pressed Turkey to raise
these issues with the Iraqis.

TRILATERAL TALKS USEFUL
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5. (C) Charge passed a copy of the Framework for Action
formulated at the Aug. 6 PKK Trilateral Talks in Washington.
Sensoy had no comment on the specific points but voiced his
displeasure with the difficult behavior of the Iraqis in the
lead-up to the talks and the approach and language they
employed during the talks. Despite this, he expressed
gratitude to DAS Bryza for ensuring that the talks took place
and called the resulting process for further action useful.
Charge emphasized that the broader process, the establishment
of a direct relationship between Turkey and Iraq, was
important. The US would not be in Iraq forever and Turkey
needed to prepare for that eventuality by developing a good
relationship with Iraq - the sooner the better.

COMMENT
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6. (C) Post would welcome information from Embassy Baghdad or
Washington to confirm or refute Turkish claims of PKK flags
flying in Baghdad and Tuz Khurmatu, as well as any
information regarding the activities conducted at the Ocalan
Cultural Center in Mosul.
MCELDOWNEY