Identifier
Created
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05ANKARA4059
2005-07-12 15:52:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Ankara
Cable title:  

TURKS PROPOSE AUG. 2 FOR TRILATERAL PKK TALKS,

Tags:  PTER PREL PGOV TU IZ PKK 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L ANKARA 004059 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/11/2015
TAGS: PTER PREL PGOV TU IZ PKK
SUBJECT: TURKS PROPOSE AUG. 2 FOR TRILATERAL PKK TALKS,
REQUEST FURTHER INFO ON DELEGATIONS AND AGENDA


Classified By: A/DCM James R. Moore for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

C O N F I D E N T I A L ANKARA 004059

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/11/2015
TAGS: PTER PREL PGOV TU IZ PKK
SUBJECT: TURKS PROPOSE AUG. 2 FOR TRILATERAL PKK TALKS,
REQUEST FURTHER INFO ON DELEGATIONS AND AGENDA


Classified By: A/DCM James R. Moore for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).


1. (U) This is an action request--please see para. five.


2. (C) MFA Director General for Security Affairs Hayati Guven
convoked PolMilCouns and PolMilOff July 12 to discuss PKK
trilateral talks. Guven proposed Aug. 2 as a target date for
the talks, and explained that given the Turkish summer
holiday schedule it would be difficult for the GOT to
participate beyond that date unless the talks were held in
September, which Turkey definitely does not want. (COMMENT:
Neither do we. END COMMENT.) PolMilCouns responded that we
would pass on this proposal to both Washington and Baghdad,
and that the compilation of the Iraqi delegation would likely
drive the timing of the meeting. He suggested Guven have the
Turkish embassy in Baghdad discuss the matter with our
embassy there and with the ITG. Guven agreed to do so.


3. (C) Guven noted that he or another MFA DG would likely
lead the Turkish delegation rather than GOT Special Envoy
Koruturk; PolMilCouns agreed that Koruturk was too senior for
HOD. Guven asked approximately how large the U.S. delegation
was likely to be. We responded that it would likely include
representatives from State, Justice, FBI, and DoD. Guven
requested that we provide a non-paper of which entities were
likely to be represented from the U.S. side. We said we
would pass the request to Washington, and also check if
Embassy Baghdad had such a list in mind for the Iraqis.


4. (C) Guven noted that the GOT would have a relatively short
lead time between the July 18-20 meeting of the Iraq
neighbors' interior ministers in Istanbul and the PKK talks.
This is why the Turks were focusing on Aug. 2--to allow
themselves about two weeks' lead time. Guven asked if we had
a notional agenda for the talks in mind beyond the law
enforcement/extradition theme for this round; we responded
that we will ask Washington and Baghdad. Finally, Guven
noted that the issue of whether we could provide Turkish
language interpretation would affect the composition of the
Turkish delegation. He said that Turkey could be prepared to
send an English-speaking delegation if necessary, but worried
that differing language abilities might skew what other GOT
agencies would take away from the meeting.


5. (C) Action request: Embassy requests that Washington (and
Baghdad as noted) provide the following:

--Confirm Aug. 2 is an acceptable date. (COMMENT: We
recommend doing so. END COMMENT.)

--Notional list of USG agencies to be represented at the
talks, with approximate numbers if available. If Embassy
Baghdad can provide a similar list for the Iraqis, so much
the better.

--Notional agenda

--Information on whether we will be able to provide Turkish
language interpretation.


6. (U) Iraq REOs minimize considered.
MCELDOWNEY