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05ANKARA2600
2005-05-05 15:18:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Ankara
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DAS KENNEDY MAY 3 MEETING WITH TURKISH MFA DIRGEN

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ANKARA 002600 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/05/2015
TAGS: PREL TU KG UZ AJ GG
SUBJECT: DAS KENNEDY MAY 3 MEETING WITH TURKISH MFA DIRGEN
AKINCI


(U) Classified by Ambassador Eric S. Edelman, E.O. 12958,
reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ANKARA 002600

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/05/2015
TAGS: PREL TU KG UZ AJ GG
SUBJECT: DAS KENNEDY MAY 3 MEETING WITH TURKISH MFA DIRGEN
AKINCI


(U) Classified by Ambassador Eric S. Edelman, E.O. 12958,
reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).


1. (C) Summary: Continuing their strategic dialogue begun
in February in Washington, EUR DAS Kennedy met May 3 with
Turkish MFA DG for Central Asia and the Caucasus Akinci. FM
Gul travels to Kyrgyzstan May 5 and will encourage the Kyrgyz
to avoid violence and prioritize their assistance requests.
Turkey appears willing to work with the OSCE and to encourage
the Kyrgyz to do so. Akinci said Turkey seeks "stability" in
Central Asia, but this should not be taken to mean it opposes
democratization. On Georgia, Kennedy encouraged the Turks to
help promote reconciliation in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
Discussion on Armenia will be reported septel. End Summary.


Kyrgyzstan
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2. (C) Akinci told DAS Kennedy FM Gul will travel to
Kyrgyzstan May 5 to meet with "everyone," including the most
viable presidential candidates. Gul's messages to all
parties will be to avoid violence, focus on cooperation,
prioritize requests for assistance (the head of TIKA,
Turkey's AID-equivalent, will accompany Gul). Akinci said
Turkey is ready to help with Kyrgyz elections within the OSCE
framework, including sending observers. The Turks will also
ask the Kyrgyz how they plan to compensate the losses of
Turkish businesses looted in March (inter alia, he claimed a
Turkish-owned hotel had been "confiscated"). Akinci promised
to call Kennedy after Gul's visit. He said the Kyrgyz had
suggested that international funds could be available to pay
such claims. Kennedy said that we had sought to work closely
with the Russians from the onset of the Kyrgyz crisis and to
demonstrate that the OSCE could effectively represent
Russia,s interests, such as OSCE,s focus on protection of
national minorities.


3. (C) DAS Kennedy noted that TIKA and AID can usefully
offer assistance to Kyrgyzstan. She agreed the Kyrgyz needed
to prioritize their requests, but suggested we should help
them think through this. She welcomed Turkey's willingness
to work with the OSCE. She urged that FM Gul reinforce the
OSCE's importance with the Kyrgyz on his upcoming trip
(including gaining timely Kyrgyz endorsement of the OSCE work

plan),she encouraged the GOT to help convince the Russians
to support the OSCE's mission, and she asked that the GOT
consider contributing financially to the OSCE work plan.


4. (C) Akinci predicted Russia will not object to the work
of NGOs, including the OSCE, in Kyrgyzstan because extreme
nationalists threatened foreigners there, including Russians.
As they are wont to do, the Russians were simply objecting
in order to lay down a marker, he asserted.

Central Asia and Democratization
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5. (C) Akinci said if events similar to those in Kyrgyzstan
spread to other Central Asian countries, the unrest would not
be as abrupt or violent as in Kyrgyzstan. Any changes in
Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan will come from the top, not the
people, he asserted, and take the form of struggles "between
clans." Akinci worried about where any sudden change in
Uzbekistan would lead, claiming (without demonstrating any
solid analytic basis) that, for several reasons, including
"historically", Islam there is "not peaceful."



6. (C) "Revolts do not always yield "the desired results,"
Akinci tried to warn. Turkey seeks "stability" everywhere,
but this creates the mistaken impression Turkey does not want
democracy. Turkey does want democracy, Akinci asserted, but
"reasonable people" can differ about the best way to reach
it. Kennedy noted democracy and stability are not
antithetical ("correct, in the long term," Akinci replied),
and we should all support reforms. She hoped Turkey would
encourage Central Asian governments to not oppose NGOs that
are trying to bring reform. Akinci gave no sign of
willingness to do so.

Nagorno-Karabakh
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7. (C) Akinci asked for an update on the Minsk Group.
Trying to deprecate the process, Akinci noted the Armenians
and Azeris had only had proximity talks in London. Kennedy
responded that the engagement had been serious and the two
Presidents may meet at the COE Summit. She urged Turkey to
encourage President Aliyev to move forward on
Nagorno-Karabakh.

Georgia
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8. (C) Akinci said Turkey's Ambassador to Georgia is
awaiting a "green light" from the Georgian government and
Abkhaz "officials" to visit Abkhazia. Kennedy noted the
recent Georgia/Abkhazia talks in Geneva had been successful
in bringing Georgian and Abkhaz representatives together, but
progress was limited. Russia had taken negative steps
recently, conducting military exercises in Abkhazia and
holding a "convention" of separatist leaders. Kennedy said
she hoped Turkey would encourage the Russians to promote
reconciliation in Georgia, not separatism, including in South
Ossetia where the Georgians were offering substantial
autonomy. She encouraged the GOT to support the proposal for
ferry service between Abkhazia and Trabzon, Turkey.


9. (C) In stiff-arming the suggestion that the GOT support
the ferry service proposal, Akinci tried to lay out a
situation in which, he claimed, Turkey's sizable
Abkhaz-origin population considers Turkey too pro-Georgian,
while the GoG considers Turkey too pro-Abkhaz. Perhaps that
means our policy is correct, he joked. Turkey considers
Georgian territorial integrity "sacred," he claimed, but all
sides need to ask themselves pragmatically how to make life
easier for their people. He worried that the conflict will
become "ossified" if the present impasse continues, and that
President Saakashvili will be tempted to use force to try to
solve it. Kennedy said we would remind Putin of our
insistence that Georgians eschew military force; in turn
Russia must actively participate in the political process to
resolve the conflicts.


10. (C) Kennedy said Russia should help the parties reach a
solution. Akinci defended as reasonable Russia's demand to
keep its "privileges" in Abkhazia, including port access and
land ownership. Akinci added that recent Georgian behavior
toward Ajara made Abkhazians doubt they could obtain true
autonomy from the GoG.

Black Sea Economic Cooperation
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11. (C) Kennedy expressed USG disappointment that our
application for BSEC observer status has not been accepted
and asked Akinci why and whether Turkey had spoken in support
as it had promised. Akinci temporized and blamed the
Russians. Pressed, he urged that the U.S. be "patient" and
claimed it was "not correct" that Turkey had not supported
U.S. observer status.


12. (U) This cable was cleared by EUR/DAS Laura Kennedy.
EDELMAN