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04TELAVIV6671
2004-12-30 14:49:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Tel Aviv
Cable title:  

ISRAELI DEFENSE MINISTER OFFERS CAUTIOUSLY

This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 006671 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/30/2014
TAGS: PREL MARR IS ISRAELI PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS GAZA DISENGAGEMENT COUNTERTERRORISM GOI EXTERNAL
SUBJECT: ISRAELI DEFENSE MINISTER OFFERS CAUTIOUSLY
OPTIMISTIC ASSESSMENT OF CHANCES FOR ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
SECURITY COOPERATION


Classified By: Ambassador Daniel C. Kurtzer; Reasons: 1.4 (B) and (D).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 006671

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/30/2014
TAGS: PREL MARR IS ISRAELI PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS GAZA DISENGAGEMENT COUNTERTERRORISM GOI EXTERNAL
SUBJECT: ISRAELI DEFENSE MINISTER OFFERS CAUTIOUSLY
OPTIMISTIC ASSESSMENT OF CHANCES FOR ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
SECURITY COOPERATION


Classified By: Ambassador Daniel C. Kurtzer; Reasons: 1.4 (B) and (D).


1. (C) SUMMARY: During a meeting on December 30, Israeli
Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz gave Senator Lieberman and the
Ambassador a cautiously optimistic assessment of the chances
for security cooperation with post-Arafat Palestinian
leaders. Mofaz said that disengagement will increase
Israel's security and permit the government to "start a
dialogue and implement the road map." He acknowledged that
the new Palestinian leaders will need time to dismantle the
terrorist infrastructure, but insisted that they stop
incitement and actual terrorist attacks quickly. Mofaz
described cooperation between Israeli and Palestinian forces
in the field as "very good." He raised Syrian and Iranian
threats, noting that Syria supports terrorism, headquarters
Palestinian groups in Damascus, continues to station troops
in Lebanon, and permits Hizballah to operate against Israel.
Mofaz urged the U.S. to take the lead with the Europeans and
pursue all diplomatic solutions, including sanctions and
thorough inspections, required to halt the Iranian's
enrichment process. END SUMMARY.

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Mofaz Upbeat on Possible Security Cooperation
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2. (C) In a December 28 meeting with Senator Joseph
Lieberman, the Ambassador, Senate staff and military escort
from the CoDel, Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz noted
that Arafat's death has resulted in a "dramatic" change and a
"historic opportunity." He expressed hope that the upcoming
elections will produce a "responsible and effective
leadership ... to lead the Palestinian people in a new
direction." Mofaz said that disengagement will increase
Israel's security and permit the government to "start a
dialogue and implement the road map."


3. (C) Senator Lieberman said he had also detected a
willingness for a "a new beginning" among Palestinian leaders
and asked Mofaz specifically what steps Israel wanted them to
take to return to the road map. Mofaz replied that he thinks

the new Palestinian leaders are serious about stopping
terror, but Israel must wait and see how they act after the
elections. He expressed hope that a post-election dialogue
will lead to Israeli-Palestinian coordination on the
disengagement plan. He added that the PA must reform its
security services, reduce the number of independent
organizations, and unify command. "We need to see one rule,
one authority, one gun," he said. Senator Lieberman
commented that the Palestinian leaders themselves had
admitted that their security infrastructure is "chaotic." He
asked if the Palestinians would benefit from U.S. training.
The Defense Minister noted that Egypt has already agreed to
train PA security officers.


4. (C) Mofaz acknowledged that the new Palestinian leaders
will need time to dismantle the terrorist infrastructure. He
insisted, however, that they must stop incitement and actual
terrorist attacks quickly. Senator Lieberman asked Mofaz to
elaborate on the difference between ending attacks and
dismantling infrastructure. Mofaz replied that the first
step is to prevent new attacks. The longer-term
dismantlement includes disarming terrorist groups, collecting
illegal weapons, and preventing re-supply by smugglers.


5. (C) Senator Lieberman asked about the status of
cooperation between Israeli and Palestinian security forces.
Mofaz noted that the two sides have "very good coordination
in the field," primarily in the West Bank. He said Israel
had worked well with Dahlan when he was security chief, but
will now have to "wait and see" which Palestinian official
will command the security forces.

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Mofaz Raises Syrian and Iranian Threats
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6. (C) Mofaz complained that Syria supports terrorism,
headquarters Palestinian groups in Damascus, continues to
station troops in Lebanon, and permits Hizballah to operate
against Israel. He said that "Syria is deeply involved in
terrorism against U.S. forces in Iraq" and insisted that
Damascus has "no real intent" to negotiate peace with Israel.
Mofaz listed three conditions for serious peace talks: the
removal of Palestinian terrorist groups from Syrian
territory; the "dismantlement" of Hizballah (which he said
supports Palestinian terrorists by channeling to them Syrian,
Iranian, and Saudi resources); and the return of
responsibility for southern Lebanon to Lebanese military
forces. Senator Lieberman agreed that Syrian peace overtures
are intended to distract the international community from
what Syria is doing in Iraq and Lebanon. He said Congress is
currently examining its options on how to deal with the
problem.

7. (C) Mofaz cautioned that Iran is "very close -- less than
one year away --" from enriching uranium, which he described
as a "point of no return" for the Iranian nuclear program.
This effort is widely supported by the Iranian government and
Majlis, he said. Mofaz confided that Israel "does not see
results" from the EU-3 negotiations with Iran, which he
described as an effort by Tehran to buy time to complete the
enrichment process. He urged the U.S. to take the lead with
the Europeans and pursue all diplomatic solutions, including
sanctions and thorough inspections, required to halt the
Iranian's enrichment process. He said that such an effort
could lead to success, but "time is running out." Mofaz
described Iran, with its extremist regime, support for
terrorism, and long-range surface-to-surface missiles, as a
threat to Europe and the rest of the free world. Senator
Lieberman told the Israelis that he believed the U.S. is
ready to actively participate in the diplomatic and U.N.
processes to stop the Iranian program, but he expressed
skepticism that the Europeans and Russia would commit to
effective sanctions.


8. (U) Mofaz was accompanied by MOD Director General Amos
Yaron, Director of MOD Director for Military-Political
Affairs Amos Gilad, Chief of Staff Ami Shafran, Military
Secretary to the Minister BG Etan Dangott, Media Adviser Eli

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Kamir, and MFA Director for Congress Meirav Eilon-Shahar.
Senator Lieberman did not clear this message before his
departure.

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